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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Apr 13th, 2024 19:03 1st Post
Yes - I know, a bit odd on a DSLR forum but I have now acquired an FE to go alongside the FM - in the day I always used Kodak Gold 200 asa for colour and Ilford FP4 125 asa for black and white.

Are these still the best general purpose stocks?



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Posted by Iain: Sat Apr 13th, 2024 20:38 2nd Post
I always used Fujifilm.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Apr 15th, 2024 08:13 3rd Post
Are you going to shoot some film with it. I still put the odd roll of FP4 in my Rolleiflex 3.5F, I got it new for £140 in 1959 it is still as good as new.

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Posted by chrisbet: Mon Apr 15th, 2024 10:34 4th Post
Yes - my plan is to load one with B&W and the other with colour and use them for street photography and portraits. They are less intrusive than the bigger DSLRs



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Posted by jk: Mon Apr 15th, 2024 13:21 5th Post
I believe the old film stocks of Kodak Tri-X and Pan-F as still made but for colour thr Fujifilm products are fine.  
For slides Kodachrome seems to have died but Fuji still make their range.

That said I have my old F2 cameras and and F3 just for the love of handling them.
I find film to be less useful for my photography and all prints will need to be made from digital images unless you want to invest in a full wet darkroom.
Digital is environmentally and practically so much easier/better.



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Posted by chrisbet: Wed Apr 17th, 2024 12:19 6th Post
Well, after reading a lot of reviews I find the whole situation confusing!  So, as a starter for 10 I have gone for a roll of Ilford HP5+ (400 asa) and a roll of Kodak Gold (200 asa) I'll shoot them both through the FE which has been fully serviced and then maybe a roll of Fuji film colour & B&W and see which I prefer......



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Posted by Eric: Thu Apr 18th, 2024 19:22 7th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Well, after reading a lot of reviews I find the whole situation confusing!  So, as a starter for 10 I have gone for a roll of Ilford HP5+ (400 asa) and a roll of Kodak Gold (200 asa) I'll shoot them both through the FE which has been fully serviced and then maybe a roll of Fuji film colour & B&W and see which I prefer...... You may find the HP5 a bit grainier than 400 ISO on your DSLR. But I used it for action and got some nice results.

You could also try XP2 ….which is a BW film using C41 colour chemistry…..I found that gave less grain than XP5.

Fuji Velvia was the saturated 50asa beast but tended to be greenish. I used Provia 100asa in preference.

Whatever happened to Konica ? That was a nice 100asa colour film with a slight blue shift.



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Posted by Iain: Thu Apr 18th, 2024 20:23 8th Post
Eric wrote:
You may find the HP5 a bit grainier than 400 ISO on your DSLR. But I used it for action and got some nice results.

You could also try XP2 ….which is a BW film using C41 colour chemistry…..I found that gave less grain than XP5.

Fuji Velvia was the saturated 50asa beast but tended to be greenish. I used Provia 100asa in preference.

Whatever happened to Konica ? That was a nice 100asa colour film with a slight blue shift.
Konica was a nice film. It was Fuji print film I was using for the sport, 400 and 800asa and the 800 was pushed to 3200 when I did a night time game at the Newcastle Falcons rugby ground as they had 6 candles for flood light or so it seemed.



Posted by Eric: Fri Apr 19th, 2024 15:22 9th Post
Iain wrote:
Konica was a nice film. It was Fuji print film I was using for the sport, 400 and 800asa and the 800 was pushed to 3200 when I did a night time game at the Newcastle Falcons rugby ground as they had 6 candles for flood light or so it seemed. Spot the ball competitions were difficult in those days....you had so much grain the size of the football, you were spoilt where t put the X:lol:



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Posted by Iain: Sat Apr 20th, 2024 10:13 10th Post
Eric wrote:
Spot the ball competitions were difficult in those days....you had so much grain the size of the football, you were spoilt where t put the X:lol: That was the case at the rugby but it was either that or no pictures. :lol:



Posted by jk: Sun Apr 21st, 2024 19:14 11th Post
XP2 will yield you some good b&w images if a little flatter in contrast to TriX or HP5.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Apr 22nd, 2024 10:28 12th Post
jk wrote:
XP2 will yield you some good b&w images if a little flatter in contrast to TriX or HP5. I suspect that’s down to typical laboratory C41 ‘average’ processing. I tended to do my own FP4 and HP5 developing and yes they were more contrasty ….but I used to boost contrast when printing my XP2 lab negs.



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Posted by novicius: Tue May 14th, 2024 17:16 13th Post
B&W was for me a mixed bag of sorts..I was always looking for the perfect developer...Aucutol..Acufine..Tetenal was the best chemical company of course..color was invariably shot on slides with GAF Anscochrome 500 being the Fastest of them all ...AGFA CT18 for snowscapes,...ah yes, the days of film, may they never return.



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue May 14th, 2024 17:50 14th Post
But they ARE returning - there is a growing following for film photography.

Maybe driven by a distrust of AI manipulation and maybe because it demands more of the photographer versus the happy Iphone snappper and Instagram.



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Posted by novicius: Tue May 14th, 2024 17:54 15th Post
chrisbet wrote:
But they ARE returning - there is a growing following for film photography.

Maybe driven by a distrust of AI manipulation and maybe because it demands more of the photographer versus the happy Iphone snappper and Instagram.
Surely that is for LOMO-graphers only..to be used in camera`s made of Bakelite.

...what`s next, Collodium plates and poisonous vapor, that would be one way to get rid of them pesky photogs.,....



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Posted by Eric: Wed May 15th, 2024 21:31 16th Post
chrisbet wrote:
But they ARE returning - there is a growing following for film photography.

Maybe driven by a distrust of AI manipulation and maybe because it demands more of the photographer versus the happy Iphone snappper and Instagram.
How much digital photograph demands of you, depends on where you want to go with it.  It may well take photography away from its roots in basic image capture and faithful reproduction but it opens up a whole host of artistic opportunities ....if the person is interested in doing that.
I really don't want to go back to darkroom work again. I had years developing autoradiographs for UKAEA and then bizarrely continued in photographic darkrooms as a hobby!!  As soon as I was able to subcontract film processing and print production I seized the opportunity.



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Posted by novicius: Fri May 17th, 2024 06:00 17th Post
Kidding aside,..Film, Chemistry,Darkroom etc. has an attraction of it own, and if I was half a century younger then I would be interested in that , just as I was then in the Collodium process.

Now that way of photography does have challenges and virtues of its own,and providing the Mfgrs. continue supporting by offering the goodies required, then it will probably be around for a long time to come.

I mean to remember that photography was Not accepted as an artform until early 1930´s in the USA, and not until the 1950`s in EUROPE ,I still meet those who consider Digital as Not being art, but accept Film photography as so, Indeed  , a true photog is someone who uses film.

Due to it being a complicated medium of different demands ,it does force the photog. to be more attentive to workflow,which in turn will offer rewards in satisfaction of self,and a deeper understanding of what makes a good picture.



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Posted by Eric: Sat May 18th, 2024 19:23 18th Post
novicius wrote:
Kidding aside,..Film, Chemistry,Darkroom etc. has an attraction of it own, and if I was half a century younger then I would be interested in that , just as I was then in the Collodium process.

Now that way of photography does have challenges and virtues of its own,and providing the Mfgrs. continue supporting by offering the goodies required, then it will probably be around for a long time to come.

I mean to remember that photography was Not accepted as an artform until early 1930´s in the USA, and not until the 1950`s in EUROPE ,I still meet those who consider Digital as Not being art, but accept Film photography as so, Indeed  , a true photog is someone who uses film.

Due to it being a complicated medium of different demands ,it does force the photog. to be more attentive to workflow,which in turn will offer rewards in satisfaction of self,and a deeper understanding of what makes a good picture.
In real terms, its a very small step from film photography to digital photography. I personally think anyone who draws a line between the two in terms of art, is missing the whole meaning of art.



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