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sorry Eric but I think your problem lies within your own processing regime and your expectations , added to the manufactures own stories about what can be done ..
ALL camera makers got carried away about 10 years ago into making cameras that would not only take photos but also take video herein lies the problem it has increased complexity and distracted things .
I have used a lot of cameras across the brands and sensor sizes and most of our expectations as far as wildlife are concerned come down to one problem CROPPING , if you use a full frame camera to take a image and a crop factor camera to take the same image to get them both to the size you want you need to crop in . doing this will induce noise in the image , then add that a lot of our photos are taken in low light situations the problem will get worse , correct exposure compensation will help but not cure it .
I find that virtually every wildlife photo I take with what ever camera/lens
combo suffers from noise . it's really then down to using the available processing tools to cure the problem . I use Lightroom and photoshop the former for cropping and colour sorting the latter for layering the image . I ALWAYS layer every pic and apply noise reduction through a plug in made by imageonic . then sharpen the bird/animal as needed the whole process takes about 3 to 4 minutes .
there unfortunately is no way round it at this moment in time , if you allow the camera to do the noise reduction it will simply apply it to the whole image making it softer
Thanks Jeff
I confess I had come to that conclusion from your previous posts and examples.
I suppose in posting this thread I was just venting my annoyance and frustration that the industry has moved on in so many ways, made cameras that can have miraculous performance 'upper storeys' ( just learnt the D500 can do an H5 iso of 1,600,000
) but no one seems to have updated the “upper ground floor' .....where most of us spend our time and energy. We still have noise at 4000.... why haven't they lifted THAT threshold to (say) 10000?I realise, in wildlife, I am joining a new genre of photography and it takes time to change my commercial way of working for the last 25years ....where individual shots could take 30mins to arrange, light and expose
I will get there.... with you experienced birding photographers helping and by practising in the field.
I've also been reading some interesting articles on exposure, iso etc etc.
It's amazing how the blindingly obvious can be overlooked. For example....if the background is darker than the correctly exposed subject..... it will be underexposed...and as such more prone to noise anyway.
But as you say, in the absence of some momentous change in sensors 'upper ground floor' performance, noise management will still be part of the processing workflow
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Eric