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| Posted by Robert: Tue Sep 25th, 2018 09:34 | 1st Post |
| https://photorumors.com/2018/09/25/panasonic-press-event-at-photokina-live-stream/
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 25th, 2018 12:24 | 2nd Post |
Robert wrote:https://photorumors.com/2018/09/25/panasonic-press-event-at-photokina-live-stream/ It doesn't surprise me that all the main players are shifting their starting line up. But after my excursion with Fuji I am convinced that mirrorless hasn't come of age yet. It's all very well introducing full frame models but they need to overcome the inherent weaknesses of recent mirrorless cameras before they interest me again. Just about the only advantage over mirror models is the wysiwyg viewfinder which is excellent when doing exp. comp. The initial lightweight promise is soon spoilt when adding telephoto lenses...because these, like the DSLR versions, are just as heavy. And the route to lighter weight bodies has till now meant (for some bizarre reason) departing from tried and tested ergonomics. Once these bodies are all in plentiful circulation ( ie next year) I will have a look at them and see if my somewhat jaundiced opinion can be changed. 
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| Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Sep 26th, 2018 03:00 | 3rd Post |
| I am very happy with what I have got and find Nikon DSLRs do all I need. I agree with Eric, I have Sony RX10 and use it as back-up when I want to travel light, results are good but no good for action and tracking focus etc. I'm still in Spain photographing vultures in the air and find now I have the hang of tracking focus now, hardly miss a shot, no complaints.Back in UK 2 Oct.
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Sep 26th, 2018 14:24 | 4th Post |
Graham Whistler wrote:I am very happy with what I have got and find Nikon DSLRs do all I need. I agree with Eric, I have Sony RX10 and use it as back-up when I want to travel light, results are good but no good for action and tracking focus etc. Sounds like a Whistler Tarcking Instruction Course is in order 
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| Posted by jk: Wed Sep 26th, 2018 17:10 | 5th Post |
Eric wrote:Graham Whistler wrote: Hope you will make notes in case I cant attend!
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| Posted by novicius: Wed Oct 10th, 2018 18:39 | 6th Post |
| The Big D`s are Heavy...my only Gripe is with their weight...I really Wish for Nikon to shave 400gr. off....and paint them in Silver/Chrome again....
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| Posted by GeoffR: Thu Oct 11th, 2018 05:45 | 7th Post |
novicius wrote: The Big D`s are Heavy...my only Gripe is with their weight...I really Wish for Nikon to shave 400gr. off....and paint them in Silver/Chrome again....They shaved 100g off the D4 and once you put a 24-70 f2.8 on the front of it the difference is hardly noticeable. If they could shave the 400g of each fast zoom lens it would make more difference. Equally it would make absolutely no difference because the value of my lenses would fall and I wouldn't be able to afford the new, lighter, variants.
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| Posted by blackfox: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 14:54 | 8th Post |
| Hmmmm I went down the mirrorless route initially with canon eos m series , but slow focus speeds and long reach lenses unbalanced the rig . .... earlier this year I sold all canon and have moved to MFT Panasonic and Olympus with a 100-400 Leica lens , superb results through the summer and camera and lens weigh less than 1.5kg . But it's suffering in the winter light due to a smaller sensor and f6.3 lens noise is becoming a problem . Just bought a used D300S. So back in the fold . And really looking forward to it again . Nice to see all the old faces still here and active
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 05:13 | 9th Post |
blackfox wrote:....Nice to see all the old faces still here and active There are a few who are missing in action elsewhere but the nucleus of the old gang are still here ....spouting the same old rubbish.
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 05:25 | 10th Post |
| There is a catch 22 with mirrorless the way it is currently perceived. The weight saving is initially there. But with any hope of getting the power availability to match a DSLR you have to attach extra batteries in grips. This reinstates the bulk and most of the weight saving. Then there's the lenses. No one thought about the weight of the lenses....they are normal. So you are almost back to square one with regard to weight. If you opt not to do extra batteries the combination then seems unbalanced with long lenses. The latest Nikon is better on these counts. I have yet to decide if their latest iteration has narrowed the functionality gap between DSLRs and mirrorless, sufficiently.
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| Posted by blackfox: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 07:56 | 11th Post |
| as I said above above Eric my main mirrorless camera is the panasonic g80 coupled with a leica 100-400 lens this gives me due to the 2x crop factor a useable reach of 800mm and couple with 4 way i.b.i.s plus i.s in the lens to makes for a stable hand held combo .. that weighs camera and lens together less than 1.5kg .. it does suffer from its own quirks but it does work and has far more add ons that I can use ... i.e 4k video and also pre-shot mode that lets you pick your in focus shot from a large burst taken before and after pressing the shutter . . .. it does however leave me with a itch that I could do better at times hence the d300s acquisition ... I also believe that the later panasonic g9 and olympus omd1-mkii are far better than I have but they are still out of my financial reach ... unless you have actually bought into the MFT system and learnt it its easy to poo poo it but it does work 90% of the time its that enigmatic 10% that im after . imho the next re-iteration of mirrorless from the combination of panasonic /sigma/and leica as a joint venture is going to make nikons and canons efforts look like box brownies ... but the main stumbling block is going to be the £and $ ... and meanwhile olympus are promising a new MFT model in the new year that has never before seen features ... its gonna be a interesting 2019 that's for sure
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