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Posted by jk: Thu Jan 2nd, 2014 17:02 1st Post
Is this the shape of things to come ?
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/02/samsung-nx30-adds-tilting-evf-improved-display-more-wi-fi-features?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0



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Posted by Eric: Thu Jan 2nd, 2014 18:21 2nd Post
jk wrote:
Is this the shape of things to come ?
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/02/samsung-nx30-adds-tilting-evf-improved-display-more-wi-fi-features?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0

It's an interesting new design idea that is bringing the waist level viewfinder nearer.



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Posted by novicius: Fri Jan 3rd, 2014 20:57 3rd Post
I do miss the WLF , and smaller and lighter in weight is a plus , certainly for those who do n`t have a comprehensive system yet .



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Posted by Robert: Sat Jan 4th, 2014 03:31 4th Post
So do I, my first SLR was an Exa 1 which had a waist level finder, followed by several twin lens reflexes and my Bronica S2a which had a lope built into the flip up shield.

As far as I am concerned it changes the concept of photography from using the viewfinder as a means of aiming the camera at a target, to a means of composing an image. The best composition does not always require the subject to be dead centre of the frame, but that is the subliminal result using the eye level finder with the markings and focus points concentrated in the centre.

The live view solves it slightly except it forces the user to hold the camera at arms length, which isn't ideal technique. Especially with the recent trend to extreme high definition sensors, which should really be welded to a huge rock to benefit from the extra definition rather than wobbling at arms length while one composes the image.

Now if somebody would invent a 10x8 inch sensor with a portable monitor on the top I would be a happy camper. [edit: Perhaps I should add a...] :devil:



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Posted by Eric: Sat Jan 4th, 2014 04:16 5th Post
Robert wrote:
So do I, my first SLR was an Exa 1 which had a waist level finder, followed by several twin lens reflexes and my Bronica S2a which had a lope built into the flip up shield.

As far as I am concerned it changes the concept of photography from using the viewfinder as a means of aiming the camera at a target, to a means of composing an image. The best composition does not always require the subject to be dead centre of the frame, but that is the subliminal result using the eye level finder with the markings and focus points concentrated in the centre.

The live view solves it slightly except it forces the user to hold the camera at arms length, which isn't ideal technique. Especially with the recent trend to extreme high definition sensors, which should really be welded to a huge rock to benefit from the extra definition rather than wobbling at arms length while one composes the image.

Now if somebody would invent a 10x8 inch sensor with a portable monitor on the top I would be a happy camper.

Playing the devils advocate ....an articulated LCD could do the same.

If the LCD had integral pop up sides that gave shade to the screen it would closely mimic the old wlf.

Of course, using live view as the regular viewer would tax current battery life.



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Posted by jk: Sat Jan 4th, 2014 08:17 6th Post
Using in WLF mode with LiveView is more stable than holding it out in front of you and attempting to get stuff right. The arms will not have strength to keep it there and steady for any real length of time.

There is a Preview of the camera on DPReview.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/samsung-nx30

See page 3 of the review for the demo of how the articulating eyepiece works.  Very nice.


I notice it's body only weighs 375grams with batteries. 
Compare this to the Fuji X100 which weighs 445grams in total or the Fuji XE2 body which weighs 350grams with batteries.

All that said I wont be buying into a third camera system, Nikon and Fuji X series are enough.



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Posted by amazing50: Sat Jan 4th, 2014 20:32 7th Post
Eric wrote:
Playing the devils advocate ....an articulated LCD could do the same.

If the LCD had integral pop up sides that gave shade to the screen it would closely mimic the old wlf.

Of course, using live view as the regular viewer would tax current battery life.
Thought I was the only one that still liked a wastelevel view. This is a D5100 and a shade that is held on with a rubber band. It works quite well if the light isn't to bright, depands on the LCD. Note the battery grip that holds 2 cells. The magnifier is in the LCD. Any camera with a fully articulating LCD can be used this way as the shade etc. are all available on ebay.

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Posted by Eric: Sun Jan 5th, 2014 09:25 8th Post
amazing50 wrote:
Eric wrote:
Playing the devils advocate ....an articulated LCD could do the same.

If the LCD had integral pop up sides that gave shade to the screen it would closely mimic the old wlf.

Of course, using live view as the regular viewer would tax current battery life.
Thought I was the only one that still liked a wastelevel view. This is a D5100 and a shade that is held on with a rubber band. It works quite well if the light isn't to bright, depands on the LCD. Note the battery grip that holds 2 cells. The magnifier is in the LCD. Any camera with a fully articulating LCD can be used this way as the shade etc. are all available on ebay.


There ya go! Excellent adaptation.



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Posted by novicius: Sun Jan 5th, 2014 20:31 9th Post
Nice set-up... I have t` make do with angle finders,`s Not the same as a WLF tho.



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