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Posted by Robert: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 08:36 1st Post
Christopher and I had a little break trip earlier this week. We called at one of my ancestral homes where I believe my grandmother may have been born, she certainly lived there until she married my grandfather in 1911.

Ham House, now a National Trust property, on the banks of the Thames in Richmond. I have never been before so it was something of an adventure for me.

This was passing as we arrived...

D3, 24-120mm f4; 92mm, 1/1250sec @ f4, ISO400



This is the imposing statue guarding the front of the house.

D3 again.



Once inside the D3 really came into it's own, flash not allowed. All hand held.

The entrance hallway:

D3, 24-120mm f4; 24mm, 1/40sec @ f5, ISO800



A real challenge, the small, dark Chapel lit only by very dim candle lights, it was hard to see inside it was so dim. I was delighted to get this photo the reject was almost as good. It suffers slightly with movement but at 1/3 sec I was still happy.

D3, 24-120mm f4; 24mm, 1/3sec @ f5, ISO3200



Another challenge was the bedroom, not quite as dark as the Chapel but still pretty dim. Shutter still at 1/3sec I managed to keep this one steady and only took one shot the VR must have been doing it's thing.

D3, 24-120mm f4; 24mm, 1/3sec @ f5, ISO1600



We called on Eric after leaving Ham. Unbeknown to me he had already eMailed me earlier.

We had further adventures which I will recall later.

My apologies for the large images but I feel smaller images fail to convey the quality of the D3 images. Do we all get home cinemas for when the D850's come on line in order to fully enjoy the 45mp images?



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Posted by Robert: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 16:32 2nd Post
I won't bore you with the pix I took on Wednesday, Christopher loves driving diggers so we visited Diggerland near Wakefield.

On our way home I checked the weather forecast, it showed clear skies right through the night so I decided to visit the Ribblehead viaduct in the hope we might get some nice star trials. On our way up the hill to Ribblehead it started spitting a bit but that didn't deter me! The sky was reasonably clear but kept clouding over then clearing.

Having reached the viaduct about midnight and not having any other engagements we decided to wait and see if the skies cleared as predicted... They didn't, it absolutely bucketed down for most of the night! I awoke at dawn and the sun peeked from between the clouds. I grabbed a pic of the fells and the western side of the viaduct, then a train came over I took repeated shots as it ran across the viaduct, giving me material for a panorama. We then went to the eastern side in the hope the sun would give us a chance of a nice, dawn lit viaduct. It wasn't very strong but we did get a little sun.

D3, 24-120mm f4; 32mm, 1/160sec @ f5.6, ISO400



The panorama, made from six exposures, although I actually took about ten but the trains would have been overlaid, I should have timed them slightly further apart, or taken more shots and then selected the ones that I wanted.

This effort was inspired by Eric, who made a special calendar photo once with multiple lorries crossing a bridge, different method I suspect but similar result.

D3, 24-120mm f4; 120mm, 1/80sec @ f5.6, ISO400



This panorama was made in Photoshop using layers to overlay each exposure one per layer, aligned by hand then blended together. I did make one in Lightroom but it missed out most of the trains. :doh:



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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 17:06 3rd Post
I am surprised you were allowed to photograph in a National Trust property...did you tell them it was really your place?

I have to say I was looking forward to the idea of star trails over the viaduct. Without it, forgive me, it needs a steam train hammering towards the camera. Every viaduct needs a steam train!!

Some years ago I set myself to shoot the North Yorks railway with the steam train dragging the coaches across the moor towards me. 30mins later it thundered towards me....with the engine running backwards. Colour me disappointed.

:needsahug:



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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 18:07 4th Post
Loved the paddle steamer.:thumbs:

The statue is Old Father Thames isn't it? Appropriately positioned next to said river. ..so you cannot take it back to Cumbria. :lol:

I've attached the lorry photo you mentioned. Sadly I cannot remember the month I used it on. :lol:

I do remember getting 2 lorries to run around the roundabout, up over the flyover and back for about 30mins early one Sunday morning. We had radio contact to time their movements...so they held back traffic at junctions to keep lanes clear of cars. :devil:

A police car went past and ignored me and the lorry antics. However we packed up after that...not wanting to push our luck.

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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 18:20 5th Post
This one was used for November, I think....all digital weather.

I did an IR one for December....no one noticed 'white' leaves were still on trees.

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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 18:22 6th Post
This one was for Truckfest held each year in August, I think again (my memory!!) Another early start but straight image....or rather curved image. :lol:

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Posted by Robert: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 18:35 7th Post
Eric wrote:
I am surprised you were allowed to photograph in a National Trust property...did you tell them it was really your place?

I have to say I was looking forward to the idea of star trails over the viaduct. Without it, forgive me, it needs a steam train hammering towards the camera. Every viaduct needs a steam train!!

Some years ago I set myself to shoot the North Yorks railway with the steam train dragging the coaches across the moor towards me. 30mins later it thundered towards me....with the engine running backwards. Colour me disappointed.

:needsahug:

Yes, I went armed with documentary proof, met with the chief curator and her genealogy expert. I provided them with copies of some documents they weren't aware of.

We received tuition on what we were to photograph and not. No flash and I had to wear my camera bag in a certain way. My case had to be impounded while we were in the house.

Not as bad as when Michael and I went to Bodnant, We were caught eating chocolate buns in the garden by a very fierce NT guard, she was on the verge of putting us to the rack! Michael and I sloped off, hid in the bushes taking it in turns to finish the buns while 'looking out' for each other!

The forecast for next Saturday is good I think, will watch carefully. The moon should be about 2/3 full I think by then. Hopefully enough to illuminate the viaduct but not spoil the star trails. Next time I will take the tripod, I was contemplating taping the monopod to a fence post with gaffer tape on Wednesday night.

Better than it being a diesel pushing the train!!! LOL

I think synchronising a steam train with a dark clear night and a full moon is pushing things beyond realistic expectations! LOL



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Posted by Robert: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 19:16 8th Post
Eric wrote:
Loved the paddle steamer.:thumbs:

The statue is Old Father Thames isn't it? Appropriately positioned next to said river. ..so you cannot take it back to Cumbria. :lol:

I was quite taken aback with the paddle steamer, I knew of it's existence but thought it was moored at Hampton Court, permanently. It seems to ply back and forth all day.

Yes, I don't think they would be happy if I took him. Amazing craftsmanship, the whole place just oozes quality of materials and workmanship. Most of the floors are quarter sawn oak, even the toilet seat is beautiful quarter sawn oak, in some rooms it's used with different species to form beautiful parquetry patterns in the floors. The marquetry work on the furniture is absolutely exquisite. Even more so than the Wearing and Gillows furniture in Lancaster, which you are definitely NOT permitted to photograph, with or without flash!



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Posted by novicius: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 21:38 9th Post
Those are Great photo`s , but Why is it Not permitted to take photo`s indoors ??...No flash is probably based on the Bulb lamps of old , but No photo`s at all ??....

In " Kronborg Slot " ( Hamlet`s castle ) photography is allowed , No Tripod tho´, can n`t remember about flash , something I can understand , as they do not want their floors marred due to spikes in tripod legs , but No photography at all...Strange , considering England is known as the birthplace of Photography.



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Posted by Robert: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 04:18 10th Post
Thank you for the kind words.

Eric is, or was a National Trust member I think, so he visits more properties than I do but I know many places prohibit photography. The NT seems to overplay it's guardianship role in matters like this. One of the reasons I have been given is that the mass, general public tend to use fully auto cameras which are incapable of getting an image without flash. Flash is said to degrade the fine wood which is used in these properties. The UV output is fairly high and I suppose if uncontrolled the surfaces of paintings and wooden furniture might be affected. All the Southerly aspect windows are heavily protected with yellow fabric blinds.

Also the security aspect is a real concern, Ham House and many similar historic houses are laden with high profile art probably of great value and irreplaceable. Thieves have been known to go around photographing target items prior to stealing them.

This is one of the superb marquetry tables which is of stunning quality, one of Christophers shots. No flash, hand held 1/40 sec @ f7.1 ISO 6400, with the D3300 and a battered 18-105 VR lens. It was a seriously underexposed JPEG, I managed to recover it to some extent in Lightroom.

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Posted by Eric: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 04:24 11th Post
novicius wrote:
Those are Great photo`s , but Why is it Not permitted to take photo`s indoors ??...No flash is probably based on the Bulb lamps of old , but No photo`s at all ??....

In " Kronborg Slot " ( Hamlet`s castle ) photography is allowed , No Tripod tho´, can n`t remember about flash , something I can understand , as they do not want their floors marred due to spikes in tripod legs , but No photography at all...Strange , considering England is known as the birthplace of Photography.

England is also the birthplace of bureaucratic organisations like The National Trust. Unlike custodians of other European stately homes, they are excessively protective of 'their' properties, charge extortionate entrance fees and often restrict access to many areas.

I take great delight in being a member of the New Zealand heritage trust....who's member get free admission to UK National Trust properties by reciprocal agreement. Their annual fee is LESS THAN HALF the UK membership fee.o.O



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Posted by Robert: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 04:40 12th Post
Eric wrote:

I take great delight in being a member of the New Zealand heritage trust....who's member get free admission to UK National Trust properties by reciprocal agreement. Their annual fee is LESS THAN HALF the UK membership fee.o.O

Crafty old fox! :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 04:45 13th Post
Robert wrote:
Thank you for the kind words.

Eric is, or was a National Trust member I think, so he visits more properties than I do but I know many places prohibit photography. The NT seems to overplay it's guardianship role in matters like this. One of the reasons I have been given is that the mass, general public tend to use fully auto cameras which are incapable of getting an image without flash. Flash is said to degrade the fine wood which is used in these properties. The UV output is fairly high and I suppose if uncontrolled the surfaces of paintings and wooden furniture might be affected. All the Southerly aspect windows are heavily protected with yellow fabric blinds.

Also the security aspect is a real concern, Ham House and many similar historic houses are laden with high profile art probably of great value and irreplaceable. Thieves have been known to go around photographing target items prior to stealing them.

This is one of the superb marquetry tables which is of stunning quality, one of Christophers shots. No flash, hand held 1/40 sec @ f7.1 ISO 6400, with the D3300 and a battered 18-105 VR lens. It was a seriously underexposed JPEG, I managed to recover it to some extent in Lightroom.

You could have got that in the back of the car! :lol:

Lovely piece of work.


A lot of the time we go to their properties just for the gardens. The main problem is the part time 'wardens' they have stood in every room. Admittedly many are knowledgeable and will engage with you if you ask questions. But it's difficult to get away from the feeling they are guarding their possessions from 'you thieving public'....and their helpfulness is limited.

In stark contrast Jan and I went to the less we'll known French chateau..Chateau Montgeofrrey...this year. We like to find the smaller ones as they can be more interesting than over the top possessions of the Sun King!

We arrived early and in fact when the first guided tour was scheduled to start, were the only ones there! A UK place would have said you must wait till more people come to make it worthwhile for them. But a charming young lady (who we had earlier watched opening every single one of the 20 front window shutters to the baking sun!!) took us on a personal tour. Not only that....to prove that the many restorations of the wallpapers and fabrics were authentic in design, she took us into a dark bedroom, where visitors don't normally go, opened the shutters in that room and revealed an absolutely authentic, 17th century bedroom...untouched apart from a bit of dusting for years, maybe centuries. A marvellous, yet somewhat spooky, experience but something they were prepared to do for two English tourists.


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Posted by Eric: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 04:52 14th Post
Robert wrote:
Eric wrote:

I take great delight in being a member of the New Zealand heritage trust....who's member get free admission to UK National Trust properties by reciprocal agreement. Their annual fee is LESS THAN HALF the UK membership fee.o.O

Crafty old fox! :lol:

One inconvenience we have heard of, but not encountered ourselves, is some places charge affiliate members for parking.

Of course reception expect you to assume a strange stance, thrash your arms around, while sticking your tongue out, goggling your eyes wide and chanting a war song every time you are given your ticket....which can be a bit tedious. 8-):


Me and some friends waiting to get entry into Blickling Hall....

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Posted by Bob Bowen: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 08:42 15th Post
Almost jumped in with a gps/metadata comments when your memory failed at time Eric. But forgot.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 04:21 16th Post
Bob Bowen wrote:
Almost jumped in with a gps/metadata comments when your memory failed at time Eric. But forgot.
No worries Bob...I heard the thought :lol:

WHERE I took a shot has never been a problem to me (to date)...WHY is another matter.

I suppose metadata could outline my thinking at the time ....though probably wouldn't explain it. :lol:



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Posted by jk: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 04:37 17th Post
Robert wrote:
Eric wrote:

I take great delight in being a member of the New Zealand heritage trust....who's member get free admission to UK National Trust properties by reciprocal agreement. Their annual fee is LESS THAN HALF the UK membership fee.o.O

Crafty old fox! :lol:

Yes indeed .
Url to NZ heritage website for membership application?



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Posted by Eric: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 10:37 18th Post
jk wrote:
Robert wrote:
Eric wrote:

I take great delight in being a member of the New Zealand heritage trust....who's member get free admission to UK National Trust properties by reciprocal agreement. Their annual fee is LESS THAN HALF the UK membership fee.o.O

Crafty old fox! :lol:

Yes indeed .
Url to NZ heritage website for membership application?

http://www.heritage.org.nz/get-involved/membership-application


I forgot to say that, in adddition to free access to most UK National Trust properties, it includes English Heritage sites as well.

Our joint UK seniors membership was c. £80 for NT and £80 for EH. i.e. £160/year
NZ card is c.£40 for both and other places around the globe......


"Visiting Rights to Overseas Heritage Places
Members of Heritage New Zealand are entitled to free or reduced admission* to hundreds of historic properties around the world as a result of reciprocal visiting agreements in place between Heritage New Zealand and other overseas heritage organisations.......

National Trust of England, Wales and Northern Ireland (excludes Wakehurst Place)
National Trust of Scotland
National Trust of Jersey
National Trust of Guernsey
English Heritage
National Trust of Australia (except Currumbin Sanctuary in Queensland - half price admission on presentation of current Heritage New Zealand membership card)
Georgia Trust for Historic Preservation (USA)
Japan National Trust
Zimbabwean National Trust
Gelderland Trust for Historic Houses & Gelderland Trust for Natural Beauty (Netherlands)
National Trust for the Cayman Islands
Bermuda National Trust
Manx National Heritage
Barbados National Trust
National Trust for Historic Preservation (USA)"



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Posted by Robert: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 09:02 19th Post
I said I wasn't going to bore you with the Diggerland pix but...

I thought you might find this one amusing. I have spent more hours than I care to recall driving these things but Christopher managed to persuade me to have a play, just so he could take some pix of me.

D3300, 18-105 VR.



What is different about this image is that I have uploaded it to Flicker directly from Lightroom, normally I take a screenshot to the desktop, then manually drag the file to the Flicker upload page, a huge advantage of this way is that I can edit the image then update it in Lightroom, the edits update to Flicker at the click of a button. Magic.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 10:31 20th Post
Now I know what we can get you doing on your next visit.

The pond needs digging out where the polythene is. :devil:

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Posted by jk: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 11:40 21st Post
I think those stripes will get a good trashing if that happens.
The pond needs to be closer to the house so you can attract the birds in and use a shorter lens!!



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Posted by Eric: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 15:00 22nd Post
jk wrote:
I think those stripes will get a good trashing if that happens.
The pond needs to be closer to the house so you can attract the birds in and use a shorter lens!!

...and the gnats! :thumbsdown:



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Posted by Robert: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 17:48 23rd Post
No Problem! Dug quite a few ponds.



Yes, had a beard back then, 1972 I think...

Drainage is the problem, if ducks get in they make a right smelly mess. Perhaps some appropriate vegetation...

Do you plan to put the spoil around the edges to create a raised effect?



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Posted by novicius: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 19:34 24th Post
That looks a Dangerous position to be in ...glad that crane did Not topple over...:applause:



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Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 30th, 2017 09:34 25th Post
I don't think we will need a big one like that for my pond!!8-)



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Posted by Robert: Wed Aug 30th, 2017 13:34 26th Post
No but it will save opening the back gate... Can just reach over the fence from the back lane! :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 30th, 2017 15:27 27th Post
Robert wrote:
No but it will save opening the back gate... Can just reach over the fence from the back lane! :lol:
That thought DID cross my mind....but I then thought I was being too silly. :lol::lol:



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Posted by jk: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 05:52 28th Post
That would also save wrecking your nice lawn, so not such a silly thought. :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 07:17 29th Post
jk wrote:
That would also save wrecking your nice lawn, so not such a silly thought. :lol:
Well there's a large walnut tree, two ornamental trees and my studio in the way as well...so it would need a looooong reach, and radio direction even for Mr Ps experienced hand. :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 07:24 30th Post
Robert wrote:


Drainage is the problem, if ducks get in they make a right smelly mess. Perhaps some appropriate vegetation...

Do you plan to put the spoil around the edges to create a raised effect?

Well Jan wants a Monet bridge under the Weeping Willow around a pond with lilies and irises and a stream running to it with a waterfall. I should never have taken her to Giverny
:whip:

I told her it would be frozen solid...because I would do that shortly before Hell froze over.

:lol:



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Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 07:38 31st Post
She wants it like this....

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Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 07:38 32nd Post
I say it will look like this.....

:lol::lol:

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Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 07:40 33rd Post
Sorry Robert ......my disgraceful thread drift.

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Posted by Robert: Thu Aug 31st, 2017 08:46 34th Post
:lol::lol::lol: o.O



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