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Assessment of the abilities of the Fuji XT2 v Nikon D500 whilst doing flamenco dance photography.   -   Page   2
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2016 16:36
 
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Judith wrote:
Sounds interesting. Would love one as a holiday camera as I can't be bothered dragging the dslr kit along with me but it's a little out of my price range at the moment. Lol. Will just have to settle for my p&s till the bank balance improves. Can't believe youre actually going to sell kit, JK.

As for the high ISO...I'm not sure why so many people wax lyrical about the high ISO capabilities of the latest cameras. Yes, you can take the photos but at iso6400 the quality is pretty bad. I found this out at the weekend when I was shooting a birthday party for a client and my flash decided not to work which forced me to use the pop up and what ambient light there was at iso6400. I really needed to go higher than that but couldn't as I could see how bad the noise was. The photos were useable but only just and only after a lot of work in ps. Argh! 8-) When I was able to use iso3200 the quality was much better but don't think I'd want to go higher than that.


If you are shooting under indoor candescent light you will find that noise is much more evident than shooting outdoor in equivalent darkness at the same ISO. There is probably some scientific reason for this but it appears to me that there is more colour breakup of the red end of the spectrum evident in darker areas of the image, that seem to amplify the graininess.

Hey Judith...if JK is right about the XT2 performance improvement I will have an XT1 plus 18-135 lens going very soon. :thumbs:



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No for the moment no Nikon is going on sale. While the Fuji is very capable the Nikons are very well understood by me. The Fuji flash support is very poor as TTL flash protocol is proprietary.

At this point in time I have all I really need. A D750 would be nice but my foresight says that a 'D500 but with FX sensor' is coming in January and that would be my end point.



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If you are shooting under indoor candescent light you will find that noise is much more evident than shooting outdoor in equivalent darkness at the same ISO. There is probably some scientific reason for this but it appears to me that there is more colour breakup of the red end of the spectrum evident in darker areas of the image, that seem to amplify the graininess.

Hey Judith...if JK is right about the XT2 performance improvement I will have an XT1 plus 18-135 lens going very soon. :thumbs:


Ah...didn't realise that. They were very grainy. Would have been fine if they wanted gritty BWs but not for a child's birthday. As for your unwanted XT1, tempting, but alas it would have to be stupidly cheap and I rather suspect you want to finance the xt2 with the sale LOL.

 




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No for the moment no Nikon is going on sale. While the Fuji is very capable the Nikons are very well understood by me. The Fuji flash support is very poor as TTL flash protocol is proprietary.

At this point in time I have all I really need. A D750 would be nice but my foresight says that a 'D500 but with FX sensor' is coming in January and that would be my end point.


Ha! You keep threatening to sell some kit and never bring yourself to do it! :lol:

You have a D800, why you eyeing up a d750 - you don't need it:doh:

 




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jk wrote:
No for the moment no Nikon is going on sale. While the Fuji is very capable the Nikons are very well understood by me. The Fuji flash support is very poor as TTL flash protocol is proprietary.

At this point in time I have all I really need. A D750 would be nice but my foresight says that a 'D500 but with FX sensor' is coming in January and that would be my end point.


Ha! You keep threatening to sell some kit and never bring yourself to do it! :lol:

You have a D800, why you eyeing up a d750 - you don't need it:doh:
....shush you up girl....he's eyeing up my D750.:sssshh:



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Oops!!! :sssshh:

 




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To respond to Judith question about the D800 v. D750.

Good question as the D750 is just a newer D800 ;-) with some extra niceties.

I never wanted a 36MP camera. I have said that 20-24MP is enough for my needs and also if the image is reasonable well composed it is enough. If you want to crop small sections out then 36 or more, say 50MP is required. I have a full range of lenses that allow me to capture it well enough.


Re the sale of equipment - if you sell to a dealer then they give you a 1/3 of its value then double it for their resale. If you sell on commission they take 20% anyway.
So if you invested £1000 in a camera then with depreciation and dealer trade in you are lucky to get £250-300. For me I would rather have some 'low value extra cameras' which I can give away to worthy causes or sell cheaply and undercut a dealer.



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Re the sale of equipment - if you sell to a dealer then they give you a 1/3 of its value then double it for their resale. If you sell on commission they take 20% anyway.
So if you invested £1000 in a camera then with depreciation and dealer trade in you are lucky to get £250-300. For me I would rather have some 'low value extra cameras' which I can give away to worthy causes or sell cheaply and undercut a dealer.


I know a worthy cause. :thumbs:

 




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To respond to Judith question about the D800 v. D750.

Good question as the D750 is just a newer D800 ;-) with some extra niceties.

I never wanted a 36MP camera. I have said that 20-24MP is enough for my needs and also if the image is reasonable well composed it is enough. If you want to crop small sections out then 36 or more, say 50MP is required. I have a full range of lenses that allow me to capture it well enough.


Re the sale of equipment - if you sell to a dealer then they give you a 1/3 of its value then double it for their resale. If you sell on commission they take 20% anyway.
So if you invested £1000 in a camera then with depreciation and dealer trade in you are lucky to get £250-300. For me I would rather have some 'low value extra cameras' which I can give away to worthy causes or sell cheaply and undercut a dealer.


If you are prepared to endure the potential frustrations of ebay, most good quality used items reach retailers resale prices...or more. You may then lose 14% to eBay/PayPal but the math suggests it's worth doing. Your benevolence is commendable, but I derive a degree of satisfaction in funding new purchase subsidised by the sale of older unused items. Of course there's a degree of diminishing return, as I am running out of things to sell. :needsahug:



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I agree Eric. I've sold loads of old photography cr....gems on eBay and have always got a decent or better than expected price for them. In some cases I actually got more than I paid for stuff that was second or third hand to me. My most recent sale was an old 28-200 nikkor for which a deater offered me £50 and an eBay buyer paid £80. Highest I'd seen them sell for was £90 so I got a decent price.

Most of you haven't seen what I've seen many times Ie JK in full Gollum mode standing in front of his cupboard full of Nikon gear, wide eyed with glee, saying "my preciouses" "preeeeeeeciouuuussss"....

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