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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 12:17 |
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steve of oxford
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Harwood has been cleared of manslaughter by a jury without conscience. Disgraceful, IMO
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 14:25 |
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Robert
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It seems he shouldn't even have been employed by the police because of his record and sidestepping activities. That said, these things happen, it was wrong and he admits that. Not sure I could handle some of the crap which is hurled in those situations. I think restraint is easier said than done. There is also the 'police can do no wrong' factor. No matter what, they are considered to be in the right. That is why they should be paid properly, have good leadership and given the means to do their job properly, whether that means the right equipment or effective laws. In many cases the laws exist but the courts are so wishy washy in the way they apply them that the criminals laugh all the way home. My two penny worth.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 14:28 |
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Constable
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I tend to agree with Robert. Despicable but ****-up rather than conspiracy.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 14:29 |
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Constable
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Gosh look at all those stars!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 15:28 |
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steve of oxford
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What sticks in my mind is the footage of when it happened, Mr Tomlinson was bludgeoned to the ground, and oh what a surprise despite there being a few hundred coppers there who saw it not one of 'em gave assistance, just casually walked on as if nothing happened. Now, if a civilian attacked another civilian like that in front of coppers do you suppose they would still walk on by? I don't think so. Because it was one of them who did it....."we didn't see it guv" Had some of them done something to help straight away that guy might still be alive. It's the TSG mob again....same mob responsible for many a riot and death over many years. What people don't realise is this TSG lot are basically the renamed infamous SPG that was supposed to have been disbanded years ago for unprecedented thuggery and corruption. But craftily it was never disbanded, just renamed. Governments use this force as a personal ShutzStaffel whenever the English assert their right to demonstrate against corrupt and unfit leaders. Of course the hypocrisy is all too evident when these leaders bleat on about oppressive regimes in other countries....what's their excuse then for deploying the TSGSS against people going about their enshrined English right to demonstrate? Watch the space, Harwood might no longer be with the TSG but you can be sure he'll be replaced with another like him. Give me 5 mins with Harwood, he'll know what he is. I'm considering writing a public letter to camerclegg explaining I do not pay my taxes for the employ of thugs like Harwood or the TSG. Electro-cardio disruption (banned under international treatise as an instrument of torture), spy cameras, trial without jury, extraditions to the US for not breaking any English law. Coming soon....Orwellian England...edit: here now.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 15:39 |
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steve of oxford
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Constable wrote:I tend to agree with Robert. Despicable but ****-up rather than conspiracy. The judge ordered Harwoods previous not disclosed to the court, why? if it was a civilian in the dock on a manslaughter rap you can bet his previous would be admissible. Of course it was nobbled. Bent judge who knows the government's TSGSS thugs mustn't be penalised. TSG = corrupt government's primary safety device. We have plenty of bent judges in this country, Blair put them there. This is why we have fixed public inquiries amongst other things. The whole system is rotten to the core.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 16:50 |
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richw
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steve of oxford wrote:
This is normal, and results in consistent miss-carriage of justice, if jury's knew the background of half the people they find not guilty there would be a lot more folk in jail.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 04:01 |
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blackfox
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hmmmm i,m not sure on this particular one ,yes we saw the victim bludgeoned to the ground ,but we never saw or heard the moments leading up to it . as a ex night time taxi driver i can assure you that the abuse that public servants get from alcoholics ,drunkards,and worst of all drug abusers is something which pushes the limits of credibility ,till you have actually experienced it yourself i don't really think you can pass judgment . also evidence from another viewpoint will give a completely different aspect to things ,the camera or video camera can lie if its in the right hands . all i can add is in my 20 years of dealing with pissheads and junkies and there abuse having to defend myself from unwarranted personal and verbal attacks on numerous occasions i have totally gone off consuming alcohol in any form ,if i drink 6 pints per year for social circumstances thats above my limit . its very easy to sit in your comfortable home and pass judgement without knowing the FULL facts
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 07:54 |
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steve of oxford
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Blackfox;...till you have actually experienced it yourself i don't really think you can pass judgment . Ah but, I can pass judgement because....I'm a taxpayer and my tax money has been wasted on public servants who are clearly unaccountable, and in this case on a murdering SPG thug, not to mention the £million or so the trial might have cost, and the bent judge's wages. There's also the fact that none of the lice nearby who saw it did anything, just casually strolled on leaving a man dying, ignoring what one of theirs had done as if it never happened. Mr Tomlinson like any other English person had every right to be there. This is what happens when you don't truly disband the SPG and simply rename it. New name, same old thugs. SPG were scum back in the 70's & 80's....they're still there, still scum, still bludgeoning the public just because the PM and his Home secretary don't like the English electorate getting too close. The SPG have a new role, no longer do they focus on provoking black people, nowadays they're employed by the Prime Minister of the day as a personal SS. "its very easy to sit in your comfortable home and pass judgement without knowing the FULL facts" you don't need to know 'em, all one needs to know is an arrogant bully employed by the met unlawfully killed a civilian, and is walking free because of a bent judge. Obviously, it's ok to go and kill someone by pushing them to the ground with a large stick, it must be ok, Harwood is told it's ok so it must be. .....then again his skills might have extended to a bit of masonary, one wonders.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 12:52 |
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jk
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Constable wrote: Gosh look at all those stars!I cant see any Prof? Must that Alpine air 
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