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jk
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I hope that everybody in the USA especially those on the Eastern seaboard are safe and well. Take care folks this looks like a serious event. |
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Robert
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Have been thinking of them for the last couple of days, yes it's major. Especially for people and property who are not accustomed to seasonal tropical storms |
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blackfox
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same here been watching the news avidly |
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Kathy Baker
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Robert wrote: Have been thinking of them for the last couple of days, yes it's major. Especially for people and property who are not accustomed to seasonal tropical stormsWell it is a hurricane on one side and a blizzard on the other. They say the storm is so strong it will blow up into the arctic circle. The statistics are staggering. Stock exchange closed, 8 million without power, 80 houses burned in one neighborhood. to many to recount. Unfortunately I think things are going to get worse before they get better. We have a very heated presidential race and it will be likely that large numbers of people will not be able to vote. I think the only way to move an election day is if congress passes an emergency bill. Of course if one side thinks they have an advantage the will refuse to pass anything. I feel like I am in a third world country. |
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blackfox
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you really wanna try living here ,in parts its the 4th world |
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Squarerigger
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Very unnerving event to say the least. We were down in Charleston, South Carolina to attend my daughter in laws baby shower when news of the hurricane broadcast. Kept an eye on it for a couple of days and decided to remain in South Carolina as there was nothing I could do if the storm hit Hampton Roads Virginia. Our area was in the left side of the cone of probability for the eye to cross. Fortunately for us and unfortunately for New Jersey the storm kept waiting to make it's left had turn pushing it further north. We arrived back home yesterday and while there was some damage from trees down and flooding, we were very lucky. I still have power! My thoughts and prayers are with the folks affected. Going to be weeks until all damage assessments are done. |
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Eric
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Squarerigger wrote: Very unnerving event to say the least. We were down in Charleston, South Carolina to attend my daughter in laws baby shower when news of the hurricane broadcast. Kept an eye on it for a couple of days and decided to remain in South Carolina as there was nothing I could do if the storm hit Hampton Roads Virginia. Our area was in the left side of the cone of probability for the eye to cross. Fortunately for us and unfortunately for New Jersey the storm kept waiting to make it's left had turn pushing it further north. We arrived back home yesterday and while there was some damage from trees down and flooding, we were very lucky. I still have power! My thoughts and prayers are with the folks affected. Going to be weeks until all damage assessments are done.Good to hear you are all ok. We were worried when the story of the replica Bounty made the news over here..and you werent posting! Lets hope all those who have suffered will be helped quickly. |
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blackfox
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good to know your o.k .very harrowing pictures coming in on the news channels .everyone i know stateside has come through unscathed as far as i,m aware |
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jk
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Yes, glad that you and family are safe Gary. We still havent heard from Ray. I will see if I can raise him by other means. |
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Robert
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jk wrote:We still havent heard from Ray. I will see if I can raise him by other means. Ham Radio?  |
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steve of oxford
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Unfortunately I think things are going to get worse before they get better. ........yep, global warming, sea temp rise and all that = more Hurricanes. Should'a thought more carefully about China. It WILL, only get worse. |
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Ed Matusik
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What impresses me is the overwhelming effort of other nations offering their support and aid to the flood victims. |
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Squarerigger
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Ed Matusik wrote:What impresses me is the overwhelming effort of other nations offering their support and aid to the flood victims. Good point Ed. Hats off to all countries who have stepped up to offer help. What does not impress me is the limited amount of patience a few of the folks are showing in getting necessary infrastructure back on line. They seem to think someone can just wave a magic wand and all is as before. On tuesday as my wife and I were returning to Virginia from South Carolina, we passed hundreds of electric utility trucks heading north from Florida and North Carolina to help restore power. These guys and gals are just the tip of the iceberg on the number of responders who are leaving their families and comforts of home to go live and work in the hurricane damaged areas. Many of these folks have very dangerous jobs and my hopes are for their safe return to their families. |
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jk
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I know cars in America are gas guzzlers but is there a need to keep the car full of gas! People seem to be overly worried with using the car and forget there are busses not to mention the subway which is running but with limited service in some areas. I find it amazing that the subway has not been completely wrecked! |
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Kathy Baker
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I think in many areas the subway was completely wrecked. It is not the gas but no electricity to get it pumped. |
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steve of oxford
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Squarerigger wrote:Ed Matusik wrote: 1st point on this: did those countries charge 60 years of repayment for their help? 2nd...is this help comparable to the help given to the tens of thousands of Iraqi children born blind and with crippling mutations because of DU ordnance ? All the evidence for the frequency of these super storms points to environmental stress as the cause. Who was so paranoid about communism they psuedo-capitalised China & India, with a combined population of 2 billion+ ? Meddle, interfere, exploit = well what did you expect to happen. No sympathy. |
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steve of oxford
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JK: I know cars in America are gas guzzlers but is there a need to keep the car full of gas! There is to americans. Full tank of PETROL means because you've got it someone else doesn't have any. BTW you're slightly incorrect about american cars being gas guzzlers. Not these days they're not. They've shifted to par with Europe in terms of fuel consumption. But their emissions regs are laughably crippling. Never the less they still make cars with the steering wheel on the wrong side. |
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Robert
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steve of oxford wrote:Never the less they still make cars with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Not only that Steve, they drive on the wrong side of the road too.  It seems most of europe does too? No wonder they have so many crashes. |
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steve of oxford
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Robert wrote:steve of oxford wrote: Most of the world drives on the wrong side. You try telling that to them and you get looked at in disbelief. For the challenged of this world:....yes you do drive on the wrong side, it has to do with swordsmanship. Which is why Japan and England drive on the correct side. Robert, point of interest: It was in the motoring press Mustangs are finally to be imported to England with the steering wheel on the correct side of the vehicle. It's only taken them about 40 years to realise! |
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jk
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I dont have a problem driving cars whichever side of the car they put the steering wheel. Driven in Europe, Africa, USA, Mexico, South America and Australia. Only ever had two accidents both where some dolt of an English driver drove into the back of me!! Yes they were English if we need to be nationalistic. Actually the most sensible place to put the steering wheel is in the centre of the car. This means the driver is centrally positioned. Logically it makes more sense to have the driver on the kerbside of the car as then they can get out and park more closely to the kerb. However front seat passengers then have to get out into the road!! Well that just means they need to be more careful. |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I dont have a problem driving cars whichever side of the car they put the steering wheel. Driven in Europe, Africa, USA, Mexico, South America and Australia. Only ever had two accidents both where some dolt of an English driver drove into the back of me!! I tend to agree with you about driver next to the kerb. Having just come back to the UK after nearly 5000miles driving righthand drive car in Europe, I find it surprisingly alien to sit next to the centre white line..despite having done so all my driving life. I have long felt that left hand drive (with a stick shift) is not as safe for right handed people...as their strongest arm is leaving the steeering to the weaker arm when changing gear. As for the swordsmanship story (re right hand drive) ...that's a myth. Jousts and hand to hand sword combat were always done across the body not reaching out to the side, which opens the torso to the attacker. So for right handed knights at least, they passed or faced the oncomer on their left sides...ie not like UK driving.  |
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blackfox
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the best place to be when driving is in the cab of a large lorry/truck for our american cousins ,far more comfort zone up there . some years ago while taxi driving the boss decided to buy a fleet of the polish built fso cars ,they were a pig to drive and always breaking down ,but one night a drunk driver decided to have a head on crash with me .it was that bad that the engine of my car ended up touching the passenger seat .however i walked away with a bruised thumb ,the policeman at the scene said the tank like build of the car saved my life .if it had been left hand drive i would be dead now though |
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steve of oxford
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Yes they were English if we need to be nationalistic .......careful JK, you might appear anti-English, then someone would have to complain, anonymously of course. Logically it makes more sense to have the driver on the kerbside of the car .......but then you'd be driving with the rest of the car O/S, a bit dodgy with oncoming traffic, and totally useless for sport. Some dolt of an English driver drove into the back of me !! ........I had a near miss the other day, I was touching 110 when some stupid woman decided to pull out from behind a bus on the other side of the road, luckily there was enough distance to skid to a stop from when I hit the brakes, but, no word of a lie there was only about two feet in it. That was too much of a scare even for me, I had instant flash visions of air bags. Idiot woman should be taken off the road. |
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steve of oxford
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Blackfox: polish built fso cars ....LOL polish built Fiats. Them things had a nasty habit of dropping brake pads onto the floor. I remember them well ! the best place to be when driving is in the cab of a large lorry/truck for our american cousins ,far more comfort zone up there . ........yeah but you don't look cool. Us MX5 drivers grin. |
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blackfox
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...LOL polish built Fiats. Them things had a nasty habit of dropping brake pads onto the floor. I remember them well ! yep (scenario) heading towards a steep cutting dropping down to town and its single track only ,car coming up ,slams on my brakes ,front brake pads drop out ,tiny little grass bank on my nearside going upwards not downwards ,only choice head up it ,comes to halt ,opens drivers door jumps down 6 foot and stands there shaking for half a hour grrrrrrrrrrrrr>:(>:( |
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steve of oxford
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blackfox wrote:...LOL polish built Fiats. Them things had a nasty habit of dropping brake pads onto the floor. I remember them well ! Strange thing is I had a couple of Fiats a 124 & a Mirafiore and that didn't happen. Seems just the Polish built stuff had the reputation for spitting pads out. You don't see any FSO's these days, I guess they've all rotted out. |
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