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Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2013 12:42
 
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Eric wrote: jk wrote: I still have an old circular slide rule that I was given 48 years ago!

Is that an Otis King?


No it is a plastic one that has a plastic insert that also has all sorts of useful Chemistry, Physic and SI/Imperial/US unit interconversion information.
It was a trade gift from BOC to my Dad that I acquired in 1962.   In fact it must be 50 years old last year not 48!!  It is now antique.



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Robert wrote:
Eric wrote:

"I feel the UK is lagging behind with incentivising domestic energy generation. I have a large south facing roof crying out for solar panels....but it will take me 15-20 years to recover installation costs. I don't plan to be living here in 15 years ...so unless I can lump this cost onto the sale price, it's lost money.<br> One of my neighbours has just had panels installed and I will monitor his return with interest."


I have a friend who is having panels fitted, his concerns match Eric's.  He is having his electricity supplier install the panels at their expense, he will still have some saving on the cost of his electricity with due allowance for his non investment.  He believes that it will enhance the value of his property because it brings savings on the energy bill with no capital investment or risk, on his part.


What the??? o.O JK?


Hope he checked the contract terms?

There are some deals that in effect 'rent' your roof space. Fine until you come to sell the house and it's a conditional of sale to keep them there at a rental cost to the new owner!



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Constable wrote: No question that solar is part of the future energy package. It is not the only component though. Every region and community will have to find a package of sources that fit the local conditions. 
The problem is not primarily one of technology (the challenges are being and will be solved) but rather one of social acceptance.
From the trivial NIMBY response to having wind generators in your locality to the question of changing social practice (recycling, end of life cycle materials reclamation, longer life cycles) and expectations (are you prepared to accept a change in life style or not to expect an ongoing increase).
The equation is a very complex one (and fortunately keeps me employed in both jobs).
The Schumacher book recommended by Jonathon is essential reading for anyone in this area of research.
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I feel the UK is lagging behind with incentivising domestic energy generation. I have a large south facing roof crying out for solar panels....but it will take me 15-20 years to recover installation costs. I don't plan to be living here in 15 years ...so unless I can lump this cost onto the sale price, it's lost money.
One of my neighbours has just had panels installed and I will monitor his return with interest.


That payback sounds a little out of date Eric, the cost is plummeting day by day the moment. If you own them then free electricity would enhance the house value but whilst the cost is going down for new installations the value it adds to the house will also decrease.

 




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jk wrote: Eric wrote: jk wrote: I still have an old circular slide rule that I was given 48 years ago!

Is that an Otis King?


No it is a plastic one that has a plastic insert that also has all sorts of useful Chemistry, Physic and SI/Imperial/US unit interconversion information.
It was a trade gift from BOC to my Dad that I acquired in 1962.   In fact it must be 50 years old last year not 48!!  It is now antique.

Jan and I both used to have the good old Otis for our calcs back at UKAEA in the 60's. I bought the wife one off ebay a year or so back as a small momento. Still managed to remember how to use it after 40 years absence.




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Is the Otis that wierd round one?

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As of yesterday the Average temp for Australia has been over 39C for the longest consistent period on record, and there is a good chance that the average temp will beat previous record set in 1972.

The effect is potentially devastating with fires all over. A good many friends and some family are affected by what is happening in Illawarra and Shoalhaven, with the first ever catastrophic condition alert ever being issued in NSW issued in four suburbs today including these. As I write a number of good friends are out fighting fires, this is what climate change means in Australia, today was declared the most dangerous day on record.

 




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Very sorry to Australia under such serious wildfire conditions. Hope all goes well for your friends and family.



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hope you stay safe and well rich,seen it on the news it looks bad

 




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blackfox wrote:
hope you stay safe and well rich,seen it on the news it looks bad

No problem for me personally but I have family in Nowra and lots of friends as well, some of them in the CFA.

 




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Constable wrote: Is the Otis that wierd round one?

Ed

Thats been said of me as well!!!:rofl:


Yes....

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