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| Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 24th, 2013 07:50 | 1st Post |
| Dont know if Herr Constable knows this critter...or there is another entomologist on here who knows the answer? Seen in N. Italy at moderate altitude. Didnt have right lens to get better piccie....so a bit oof. Cant find it in any of my books or on web. But maybe I am looking in wrong sections. I assumed it was a butterfly but perhaps not?????? Attachment: what the... copy.jpg (Downloaded 78 times)
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| Posted by jk: Mon Jun 24th, 2013 07:58 | 2nd Post |
Chernobyl moth!!  Where is Prof. Constable? I guess he is either busy with student exams or reading bursary applications or the like. Come back Ed!
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| Posted by blackfox: Mon Jun 24th, 2013 12:01 | 3rd Post |
| bloody weird looks like a cross between a caterpillar,a moth .and a butterfly with the head of a yorkshire terrier LOL
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| Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 24th, 2013 13:54 | 4th Post |
blackfox wrote: bloody weird looks like a cross between a caterpillar,a moth .and a butterfly with the head of a yorkshire terrier LOLForgot to say.... it was 3 foot long.
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| Posted by TomOC: Mon Jun 24th, 2013 16:05 | 5th Post |
Gee, it just looks like a flying caterpillar to me 
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 25th, 2013 15:17 | 6th Post |
| Well according to a guy who knows his butterflies.... It's an Owlfly. Never heard of them before! 
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| Posted by Constable: Tue Jun 25th, 2013 15:49 | 7th Post |
| Sorry Haven't been around because of moving to the white side for the mpe 65! Anyway Eric, i owe you an apology. My first thought was that you had pulled a photoshop on us! Then I remembered that I had seen one of these once. It is not a butterfly but a thing called an owl fly. I think it might be the Owly Sulphur Owlfly, but I am not certain. It is quite rare and very spectacular. They are a bit like antlions but brighter coloured. How was Italy? Ed Sorry, crossed with your post above
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 25th, 2013 16:33 | 8th Post |
Constable wrote:Sorry Now worries Ed. I emailed some guy on European butterflies site yesterday and he kindly put me straight. So have you ditched Nikon entirely ? Was only in Italy for a week, mainly in the North. Took in some mountain passes, missed some that were still closed, grabbed some culture in Ravenna and Florence ( sadly the wife discovered the gold shops on the Ponte Vecchio)  Spent most of the time in Germany, Austria and Slovenia. You will laugh that I spent ages stalking marmots and alpine choughs...only to discover later in the week, the little buggers hang around the restaurant on the GroŸglockner! I am sure you are used to snowy mountainscapes...but coming from Norfolk, we were well impressed with the spectacular scenery.
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| Posted by jk: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 03:16 | 9th Post |
| Had me there.... Moving to the white side for the mpe 65. I thought that you had been spending time at GCHQ an were talking in code. So is it a complete change or only a partial?
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| Posted by jk: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 03:20 | 10th Post |
| http://angellightphoto.eu/2562/owly-sulphur-libelloides-coccajus-lunigiana-italy/ Nice.
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| Posted by blackfox: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 03:57 | 11th Post |
| amazing what you learn on here ,and a rarity to well done eric
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| Posted by Constable: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 09:33 | 12th Post |
| Well it started as partial. Then I picked up (in my hands) a 300 mm f2.8 and 500 mm f4 Nikon: 300mm f 2.8G ED VR II AF-S NIKKOR 2.9 kg Canon: EF 300mm f 2.8L IS II USM 2.4 kg Nikon: AF-S 500mm 4.0G IF-ED VR 3.88 kg Canon EF 500mm F4.0 L IS II USM 3.19 kg I can walk 20 k with either the 300 or 500 without really feeling it ... the Niko 500 was never an option in the wild. And then I got an offer for exchange that I could not refuse. To be honest the systems are very similar except where particular special lenses exist on one side or the other. I seem to be opposed to the majority in finding the flash system from Canon slightly better (at least as far as the ring flashes are concerned). Ed
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| Posted by jk: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 10:45 | 13th Post |
| I'd tend to agree with you. There is little to choose between Nikon or Canon but I find the Nikon control interface better.
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 15:43 | 14th Post |
Constable wrote:Well it started as partial. Then I picked up (in my hands) a 300 mm f2.8 and 500 mm f4 If I walked 20km I wouldnt feel anything either...especially my legs.
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| Posted by Constable: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 15:53 | 15th Post |
| yeah... I got healthy! It's horrible!
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Jun 26th, 2013 16:20 | 16th Post |
Constable wrote:yeah... I got healthy! It's horrible! I used to run marathons in the 80s. But I developed a lower spine problem. Specialist diagnosed an anterial bulge in the spine. That's when the disk protrudes forwards. Unlike the normal disk issues I am not allowed to use lumbar supports or do swimming or arch my back. In fact when I asked the specialist what I should be doing to protect the instability he said " slump in a comfy chair". I have since then, tried to adhere to his recommendation as often as possible. 
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| Posted by blackfox: Thu Jun 27th, 2013 06:57 | 17th Post |
| tis a very hard one to quantify ,i used to use canon had them through film cameras right through to digital ,by the time i had found my niche (i.e wildlife) photography i was on the verge of retirement ,so i never had the funding to work my way into the longer lenses . i changed to nikon after trying out a d7000 in store sold all my canon gear and started afresh .i hear what JK is saying about interfaces etc but the thing that clinches it for me is flexibility and durability ,with canon i found myself carting around 4or 5 lenses to cover most situations ,with nikon i can narrow that down to one ,my 300mm f4 with t.c's will cover 300mm ,420mm,500mm and with a flick of the full focus switch becomes a half decent pseudo-macro lens and its lightweight to . a few weeks ago i bought a canon 1Dmkii off of my lad for a silly price and in all honesty i find it a good ,fast ,accurate camera limited in its 8mp but still useable .however having sat here trolling e/bay for a few weeks looking for a suitable lens i now realise why i changed systems .its great if you have a large budget but not otherwise . turning to a close friend who has been through the same quandary recently and settled on canon coupled with a brace of big lenses his simple answer was look at my pictures jeff ,can you see a £20,000 pound investment improvement in them ,are they significantly better than yours .the answer is a resounding no ,in fact he stated that with the latest high megapixel cameras coming on stream the need for a large apeture long reach lens is fading fast and i.m.h.o a need for a camera with lower iso levels will soon be upon us possibly back to the days of film when iso or asa (lol) started at 50 iso . they will probably ressurect that soon and hail it as the next big breakthrough and charge us zillions for it .!!!!!
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| Posted by jk: Thu Jun 27th, 2013 10:42 | 18th Post |
| Well I have completed my Nikon lens collection and have all and every lens I have a need or use for. I am now questioning whether I want or need a D400 or D600. I would like a D400 but since Nikon refuse to release it then it seems that I must really go to another D800 (too many MP) or a D600 (doesnt use/have the 10pin socket and I have a number of these accessories) both of which are FX which isnt what I want. I want the D400 as it is DX and as a high ISO replacement for my D300. Before the D3 came out I did briefly tot up the expense of changing from Nikon to Canon as I wanted FX and Nikon didnt have it. The cost then would have been about £20K extra layout after trade in of all Nikon stuff which I though was crazy money!
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| Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 27th, 2013 11:59 | 19th Post |
blackfox wrote:tis a very hard one to quantify ,i used to use canon had them through film cameras right through to digital ,by the time i had found my niche (i.e wildlife) photography i was on the verge of retirement ,so i never had the funding to work my way into the longer lenses . i changed to nikon after trying out a d7000 in store sold all my canon gear and started afresh .i hear what JK is saying about interfaces etc but the thing that clinches it for me is flexibility and durability ,with canon i found myself carting around 4or 5 lenses to cover most situations ,with nikon i can narrow that down to one ,my 300mm f4 with t.c's will cover 300mm ,420mm,500mm and with a flick of the full focus switch becomes a half decent pseudo-macro lens and its lightweight to . I too was a Canon man before digital. It was merely the fact that Nikon brought out the groundbreaking D1X and I was blown away, that made me change. I had previously thinned down lots of lenses to fund a flirtation with medium format, so the task was not too hard.
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| Posted by blackfox: Thu Jun 27th, 2013 13:55 | 20th Post |
| if my memory serves me rightly eric i was going to change up to digital along the canon route initially but when i went to buy one i was told none of my lenses would work on digital ,so still wanting a state of the art camera i settled on a sony f828 ,the one with the zoom lens and swivelling body .super camera and in its day a ground breaking 8mp but it suffered from terrible c.a .and back in them heady days of the turn of the century we didn't at that time have the software to cure it .hmmmmmmm now theres a thought back to e/bay LOL
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| Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 27th, 2013 15:43 | 21st Post |
blackfox wrote:if my memory serves me rightly eric i was going to change up to digital along the canon route initially but when i went to buy one i was told none of my lenses would work on digital ,so still wanting a state of the art camera i settled on a sony f828 ,the one with the zoom lens and swivelling body .super camera and in its day a ground breaking 8mp but it suffered from terrible c.a .and back in them heady days of the turn of the century we didn't at that time have the software to cure it .hmmmmmmm now theres a thought back to e/bay LOL Pioneers...the lot of us!
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| Posted by Constable: Thu Jun 27th, 2013 16:03 | 22nd Post |
| The reality is that we are so well served by all of the major brands that it is only the nuances that are deciding factors. Canifujikony Corporation will swepp the lot away! Ed
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| Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 28th, 2013 05:19 | 23rd Post |
Constable wrote: The reality is that we are so well served by all of the major brands that it is only the nuances that are deciding factors. Its all a bit depressing. Nothing to moan about.
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| Posted by jk: Fri Jun 28th, 2013 05:42 | 24th Post |
Constable wrote: The reality is that we are so well served by all of the major brands that it is only the nuances that are deciding factors.Yes indeed. 
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| Posted by KenRay: Sat Jun 29th, 2013 17:29 | 25th Post |
| I have pretty much gone the other way. Digital was just a little too much for me and my arthritis is pretty bad especially the right thumb. Had shots in both thumbs but only fixed the left,the right got worse. So I sold all my Nikon equipment and dug out an old Leica M3 and bought a Voightlander 21mm f4 for it ( I had sold all my leitz lenses some time ago and my M6's). Bought some Fuji film and returned to a great feeling. Mostly today it's just snapshots in any case. Have tried a friends M8 and I like it pretty well too and solves the film problem. You don't feel you are carrying anything. If I could walk over 100yds I would think I had done a long hike so wildlife is pretty much out so I'm back to my old favorites ,landscapes and architectural shots. It's satisfying. Getting back to Leicas is a good feeling.
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| Posted by richw: Sat Jun 29th, 2013 20:54 | 26th Post |
KenRay wrote:I have pretty much gone the other way. Digital was just a little too much for me and my arthritis is pretty bad especially the right thumb. Had shots in both thumbs but only fixed the left,the right got worse. So I sold all my Nikon equipment and dug out an old Leica M3 and bought a Voightlander 21mm f4 for it ( I had sold all my leitz lenses some time ago and my M6's). Bought some Fuji film and returned to a great feeling. Mostly today it's just snapshots in any case. Have tried a friends M8 and I like it pretty well too and solves the film problem. You don't feel you are carrying anything. If I could walk over 100yds I would think I had done a long hike so wildlife is pretty much out so I'm back to my old favorites ,landscapes and architectural shots. It's satisfying. Getting back to Leicas is a good feeling. Some of the new Fujis would give you similar benefits at a fraction of the cost.
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