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| Posted by jk: Sun Feb 5th, 2017 05:20 | 1st Post |
| What is expected from Nikon in 2017? Well the rumour mill is remarkably quiet so what is coming? Apparently there is a Df2 coming, there will be the BL and DL cameras when they finally arrive. What do we need and what do we want? My view is that we need new improved FF cameras to replace the D600/610, D750 and D810. The D810 needs an update to a 50MP camera. Many will say this need does not really exist. The D750 needs to be updated to have a better AF system. The D610 needs to be updated to have a better AF system and EXPEED4. There is no mirrorless system that provides high quality results for professionals. The current V and J systems have a sensor that is too small with noisy output at higher ISO(>800) levels.
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| Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 5th, 2017 18:32 | 2nd Post |
| D810 is not in need of 50MP!! Look at how good the D500 is.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Feb 6th, 2017 08:05 | 3rd Post |
Graham Whistler wrote:D810 is not in need of 50MP!! Look at how good the D500 is.Yes but Canon has a 50MP monster (EOS 5DS R), so Nikon will probably feel the need to match them. I agree the D500 is good but it is APS-C, so a FF equivalent would be something that satisfies many consumers, myself included. A D750 replacement is expected as is a Df replacement. My Fuji XT2 image quality is as good/better than the Nikon D500 but the AF on the Nikon is better than anything I have every used!
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| Posted by Iain: Mon Feb 6th, 2017 11:04 | 4th Post |
| I think the D750 replacement with the D500/D5 focus system.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Feb 6th, 2017 12:31 | 5th Post |
| I think that is a good bet Iain. I would probably go that route as long as it has the same battery as the D750. My D3S will then go in PX.
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| Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 07:17 | 6th Post |
| I understand that Nikon are releasing the DBREX50 for U.K.market this year. It only takes photos when in the UK and has inbuilt software to auto airbrush out any immigrants that stray into the shot. No pricing has yet been released but it's expected to be expensive being a dedicated U.K. only model. However, with investment returns now hitting rock bottom Nikon expect a good uptake on what's likely to become another classic mistake, sorry model.
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| Posted by highlander: Mon Feb 20th, 2017 11:56 | 7th Post |
 In a serious side: I think Nikon need to visit a few used equipment shops. There is a definite move away from Nikon and Canon towards Sony and Fuji, and now even Hasselblad are getting in on the mirrorless camera set up I think they will regret missing this boat.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Feb 20th, 2017 12:54 | 8th Post |
| Nikon have been slower than Canon to appreciate the values of mirrorless. If you have LiveView built into a camera it is potentially mirrorless. Nikon have the V1-V3/J1-J5 series of cameras that are mirrorless. It would be really easy to do as Canon have done and redesign a camera with mirrorless functionality from one of the D5x00 range of cameras.
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| Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 20th, 2017 18:27 | 9th Post |
| I suspect there are a lot of people flirting with mirrorless. Whether they will remain exclusively mirrorless users remains to be seen. I, for one, am unsure whether my long term camera will be Fuji X series. The Nikon D500 is an exciting 'mirrored' evolution. All Nikon need to do, is keep the significant developments coming ...and a bit like the D3 did, they will pull back the drifters.
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| Posted by Iain: Wed Feb 22nd, 2017 15:29 | 10th Post |
| A lot of rumours of a possible D7300 this spring.
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| Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 24th, 2017 11:48 | 11th Post |
| My little Sony RX10 is pin sharp Zeiss 24-200mm equivalent with 20.9 MP is super compact and A3+ are of a very high standard. Shoots 1920x1080 full HD movie with good steady shot and first class sound I understand the latest model is even better but see no reason to change. Yes it would be good for Nikon to do one. I had a Nikon V1 but changed for this little Sony 3 years ago and it is seriously better!
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| Posted by jk: Sun Feb 26th, 2017 04:53 | 12th Post |
| This content was on the NikonRumors website. Seems like Nikon has found the need to do a major rethink about their business. Several Japanese news outlets published an article based on an interview with Nikon executives. Here are the key points from a Google translation (if you have a better translation, please post it in the comments section): The Nikon camera business is undergoing a major restructuring. This is a quote: "bringing in multiple mirrorless cameras at an early stage" - to me this means announcing multiple mirrorless cameras soon. Nikon is taking an aggressive approach to rebuild their camera business. Nikon has no plans for closing domestic or overseas manufacturing plants at the present time. In the future Nikon will concentrate their resources on medium to high-end DSLR cameras and lenses as well as mirrorless cameras. Nikon will have fewer models in the future. Nikon still wants to develop a high-end compact camera.
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| Posted by jk: Sun Feb 26th, 2017 05:01 | 13th Post |
| In view of the above I guess we will see fewer camera bodies coming but with the content also more in the pro-sumer and professional range. This implies that the D3xxx and D5xxx ranges may disappear. If this is the case then maybe we can expect to see...... A D5 DSLR and a D5M mirrorless camera A D500 DSLR and a D500M mirrorless camera and the like..... Of course the step to mirrorless is only the first of the technology steps that they need to incorporate as the technologies change. New technologies coming are: Higher dynamic range sensors for all cameras with options to save image as TIFF (8/16bit), RAW (12/14/16bit), JPG (8bit). There is global shutter which allows flash sync at all speeds and without the need for a shutter. EVF improvements so that the optical screen can be removed and to provide a real time view of image being captured with no blackout and with EV compensation applied so WYSIWYG in the final image. And more.
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Feb 26th, 2017 06:12 | 14th Post |
| I recall the difficulty Nikon put themselves under with high ISO noise, when hoards of their users moved over to Canon in the absence of an acceptable Nikon product. Miraculously the revolutionary D3 came from nowhere. It did the trick and the repentant drifters, returned. They clearly made two or three (reluctant) steps in one move to not just catch up but overtake (for some time) the competition. It's hard not to draw a similar comparison now, where Nikon have allowed the Sonys, Fujis et al to take the lead and sell quality mirrorless cameras while Nikon drifted along in the old fashioned way....flirting with new developments and offering periodic upgrades to their range, in their desire to milk the consumers by drip feeding, rather than offering significant revolutionary steps. We all know they are 3 or more years ahead of their current offerings. They could take bigger, bolder steps ....and probably would regain their foothold. They may like to call it restructuring their business or whatever. I prefer to consider it as opening a floodgate periodically, to appease the drifters with stuff they had been stockpiling for 2020! Of course they would then need to get on with the next developments, to catch up, having released their 'reserves', all of which would be expensive. However, I can't help feeling if they had released a top end mirrorless last year, I for one, wouldn't have considered and subsequently invested several thousand pounds in Fuji. Give the customers a quantum change and they stay happy for a lot longer...giving time develop the next step. Bigger steps are required!!
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| Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 26th, 2017 07:08 | 15th Post |
| Interesting info thanks for all that!
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| Posted by jk: Sun Feb 26th, 2017 08:09 | 16th Post |
| I agree Eric. We may be in a similar lull to the pre-D3 era. Well at this point in time I see no need to spend money on new photo equipment for my Fuji or Nikon gear.
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