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Posted by jk: Mon May 8th, 2017 06:52 1st Post
There are a couple of rumours of Nikon producing a new FX camera.

D820
https://nikonrumors.com/2017/05/04/new-set-of-rumored-nikon-d820-camera-specifications.aspx/#more-112073

45MP but essentially an improved D810.

I guess this combats the new Fuji GFX medium format 44x33mm sized sensor, as opposed to Nikon FX 36x24mm, but not in the fullest sense as a larger sized sensor will probably have better noise characteristics.



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Posted by jk: Mon May 8th, 2017 06:53 2nd Post
Not sure if this is what I want but I guess it would then shift my D800 to replace my D3S.



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Posted by novicius: Mon May 8th, 2017 09:48 3rd Post
Looks interesting . but will it be as Responsive as a Big D camera and what will Pricing be ?



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Posted by TomOC: Mon May 8th, 2017 15:15 4th Post
Sounds like a lot of camera...I have 2 complaints...too big a sensor!!! and the wrong choices in card slots...who actually uses both ! ..should be two of whatever you use !!!



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Posted by jk: Mon May 8th, 2017 15:19 5th Post
I agree about the slots Tom. However in my D500 I have filled both slots SD and XCD. Needs be!



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Posted by amazing50: Thu May 18th, 2017 09:59 6th Post
Can't see Nikon coming out with less pixels than Canon



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Posted by jk: Thu May 18th, 2017 13:59 7th Post
Well rumour tree says 45-50MP.
I will wait and see what arrives.
Personally I want a 24MP D810 clone. Identical body configuration as D810 but 24MP. Then if a D820/D850 comes as well at 50MP I will pass on it as my D800 has enough pixels, a 50MP camera would be a catch-up Canon and Fuji GFX.

The Fuji GFX is 50MP with a larger than FX sensor (44x33mm). For me the sensor size is not a big enough increase if it had been 50x40mm then it would have been much more interesting. However the GFX is physically no larger, or not by much, than a FX DSLR.



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Posted by Iain: Fri May 19th, 2017 09:43 8th Post
I have to say that for what I do I think 36mp is too much so 45-50 would be way over kill.

 


Posted by jk: Fri May 19th, 2017 15:13 9th Post
Iain wrote:
I have to say that for what I do I think 36mp is too much so 45-50 would be way over kill.
That is my thought as well. 24MP is enough.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Jun 6th, 2017 18:21 10th Post
36 MP is more than enough I will stick with the D810 does fine for me!



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Posted by jk: Mon Jul 3rd, 2017 16:27 11th Post
Latest rumours of the D820 say that it will be late July for the product info release. But who knows when in the shops.

Might be tempted but I am hearing it is 45-55MP so I am interested but not interested.



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Posted by jk: Sat Jul 8th, 2017 19:51 12th Post
July 25th may be date for information release as it is 100th Anniversary date and Nikon want to make splash.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 18:23 13th Post
Nikon are calling it the D850



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Posted by jk: Sat Jul 29th, 2017 08:59 14th Post
Yes but there are no details.
I guess that this is so in order that Canon cant develop a spoiler.



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Posted by highlander: Sat Jul 29th, 2017 10:41 15th Post
Latest rumour was a jump to D850



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Posted by jk: Sat Jul 29th, 2017 15:03 16th Post
highlander wrote:
Latest rumour was a jump to D850
It is a fact that the next Nikon DSLR will be a D850 but other than it is FX there are sketchy details.



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Posted by jk: Sun Jul 30th, 2017 03:48 17th Post
Latest from the rumour mill.

No EVF, hybrid EVF/Optical view finder :-(


45-46MP full frame CMOS sensor
Improved low and high ISO
New and improved version of SnapBridge
No built-in GPS
Tiltable LCD screen just like the D750 and D500
Memory card slots: one SD and one XQD
AF system from the D5
No built-in flash (from the teaser picture)
Back illuminated buttons (from leaked pictures)
Joystick selector (from leaked pictures)
Built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (from leaked pictures)
8K time-lapse video capabilities (from promo video)
New: the D850 will be on display at the Photo+ Expo in October
New: touchscreen
New: 4k UHD video in FX format (with no crop).



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jul 30th, 2017 06:31 18th Post
Looks like they are after the very high end big chip Hasselblad commercial & advertising photo market but would noise still be the big problem for Nikon with the size of the chip compared with the medium format cameras?

For what I do the D810 has more fine detail than I ever need and noise at reasonable ISO levels is very good, ie up to 1600 ISO.



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Posted by jk: Mon Jul 31st, 2017 16:38 19th Post
I have been using my D800 for flamenco photos at ISO 6400 and the results are good. They are as good as my D3S but also due to the higher pixel density give me better cropping opportunity on some occasions but in general the images look smoother. I try to frame accurately so I dont need to crop extensively.



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Posted by amazing50: Wed Aug 2nd, 2017 10:44 20th Post
Won't find me in the lineups for this one. Looks like it will cost around $4000 US and won't be readily available till December.



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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 2nd, 2017 17:31 21st Post
This what I have been waiting for.



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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 2nd, 2017 17:31 22nd Post
This what I have been waiting for.

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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 2nd, 2017 17:34 23rd Post
I dont want the megabattery pack of the D5 that adds so much extra weight. For those occasion I can get an extra grip for £â‚¬$300.
This camera looks like an alternative to the Fuji GFX50 MF camera. I have all the Nikon lenses I want or need.



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Posted by jk: Tue Aug 22nd, 2017 15:43 24th Post
I dont want to jump too soon but if everything is on the D850 that I have heard promised then it will be ordered on day1 of release.

There is a promise of the D850 having the option to choose 45/24/12MP and being 150 x 115 x 82mm (same size as D750 almost) with CAM20K (same AF as D500).
Bring it on..... Quickly.

Anyone want a D3S low use?



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Posted by Eric: Tue Aug 22nd, 2017 16:09 25th Post
jk wrote:
I dont want to jump too soon but if everything is on the D850 that I have heard promised then it will be ordered on day1 of release.

There is a promise of the D850 having the option to choose 45/24/12MP and being 150 x 115 x 82mm (same size as D750 almost) with CAM20K (same AF as D500).
Bring it on..... Quickly.

Anyone want a D3S low use?

Surely a choice of pixels is merely cropping sensor? How can it change and 'spread' different pixels across an FX sensor???? That would be no more than DX cropping in an FX body?



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Posted by jk: Tue Aug 22nd, 2017 17:18 26th Post
Happy for Santa to deliver. 2018 will be a great year for me!



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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 23rd, 2017 00:52 27th Post
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I dont want to jump too soon but if everything is on the D850 that I have heard promised then it will be ordered on day1 of release.

There is a promise of the D850 having the option to choose 45/24/12MP and being 150 x 115 x 82mm (same size as D750 almost) with CAM20K (same AF as D500).
Bring it on..... Quickly.

Anyone want a D3S low use?

Surely a choice of pixels is merely cropping sensor? How can it change and 'spread' different pixels across an FX sensor???? That would be no more than DX cropping in an FX body?
Not sure how they would implement such a thing. I guess it would be a software feature in camera EXPEED 5 chipset. This would take the image at 45MP then resample it to 24MP or 12MP. I would only want to use 45/24MP. Personally I want the accessory set to be delivered around the 10pin socket (D800/810) rather than the push in plug that is on D750/610/600.
Also I want the same battery as is in the D810/800/750/600/500. This is really important to me.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 23rd, 2017 03:59 28th Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I dont want to jump too soon but if everything is on the D850 that I have heard promised then it will be ordered on day1 of release.

There is a promise of the D850 having the option to choose 45/24/12MP and being 150 x 115 x 82mm (same size as D750 almost) with CAM20K (same AF as D500).
Bring it on..... Quickly.

Anyone want a D3S low use?

Surely a choice of pixels is merely cropping sensor? How can it change and 'spread' different pixels across an FX sensor???? That would be no more than DX cropping in an FX body?
Not sure how they would implement such a thing. I guess it would be a software feature in camera EXPEED 5 chipset. This would take the image at 45MP then resample it to 24MP or 12MP. I would only want to use 45/24MP. Personally I want the accessory set to be delivered around the 10pin socket (D800/810) rather than the push in plug that is on D750/610/600.
Also I want the same battery as is in the D810/800/750/600/500. This is really important to me.

Maybe I am being a bit blinkered but I don't see the application for a sampled down image of the one the camera captured...however it's achieved. High pixel density sensors need greater care in technique...as we all found over the years at the several stages of Nikon camera development. If it's capturing at 45mp it will still need best practise.o.O



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Posted by amazing50: Wed Aug 23rd, 2017 08:29 29th Post
Will be interesting to see if older glass, that doesn't stand up to 24+mp will look fine at 12mp.



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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 23rd, 2017 10:40 30th Post
Eric wrote:

Maybe I am being a bit blinkered but I don't see the application for a sampled down image of the one the camera captured...however it's achieved. High pixel density sensors need greater care in technique...as we all found over the years at the several stages of Nikon camera development. If it's capturing at 45mp it will still need best practise.o.O
It is all about the workflow and storage.
There are many professionals who say that 20MP is enough for most/all jobs. I tend to agree but occasionally my D800 is not detailed enough. This is very occasionally and would centre around product shots or landscapes or commercial work where my customer wants a huge print.

This is out of the ordinary request but 46/50/100MP can satisfy this.
I have found that occasionally 36MP is not enough.

Also like I say the MP delivery is incidental as I want a standard set of accessories that use the same 10pin interface and the same battery technology and charger.



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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 23rd, 2017 10:40 31st Post
Eric wrote:

Maybe I am being a bit blinkered but I don't see the application for a sampled down image of the one the camera captured...however it's achieved. High pixel density sensors need greater care in technique...as we all found over the years at the several stages of Nikon camera development. If it's capturing at 45mp it will still need best practise.o.O

It is all about the workflow and storage.
There are many professionals who say that 20MP is enough for most/all jobs. I tend to agree but occasionally my D800 is not detailed enough. This is very occasionally and would centre around product shots or landscapes or commercial work where my customer wants a huge print.

This is out of the ordinary request but 46/50/100MP can satisfy this.
I have found that occasionally 36MP is not enough.

Also like I say the MP delivery is incidental as I want a standard set of accessories that use the same 10pin interface and the same battery technology and charger.
One thing we should not forget is that Nikon make exceedingly good suport electronics. The EXPEED chipset is what differentiates Nikon images from other who use Sony sensors.



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Posted by jk: Thu Aug 24th, 2017 02:31 32nd Post
Rumour mill is reporting that today or Monday is first official specication release for D850.



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Posted by jk: Thu Aug 24th, 2017 03:10 33rd Post
Well here is the first official specs.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/4840194993/nikon-d850-offers-45-7mp-bsi-fx-format-sensor-7-fps-bursts-4k-video



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Posted by jk: Thu Aug 24th, 2017 03:29 34th Post
Comments closed on this thread.
Use the new topic called 'Nikon D850 specifications'. Or start a new topic for general discussions about D850.



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