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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 08:58 |
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blackfox
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moderately happy with the d300s its turning out some good photos recently as you have seen , but in my ever ongoing struggle for better i.q what is the best RAW settings . do I use 12 bit (more fps) or the slightly slower 14 bit do I use lossless compressed/compressed /or uncompressed up till now been shooting in 12 bit lossless compressed I have today tried out 14 bit (tad slow) but can't see that much difference yet , still to process the files though . so is there any advantage or should I just leave good enough alone ???
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 09:52 |
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Eric
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blackfox wrote:moderately happy with the d300s its turning out some good photos recently as you have seen , but in my ever ongoing struggle for better i.q what is the best RAW settings . When I was photographing commercially I always worked in the maximum camera bit depth....and edited at 16bit in Photoshop. Belt an braces! Whilst there is very little difference when comparing ootc shots or even simple edited files, when you start to do lots of processing in Photoshop, coupled with large resampling for posters etc, I feel there is a risk of loosing tonal range. This article shows the difference between 8x16bit....taken to extreme for effect. https://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/16-bit/ How much normal editing really shows up these differences, especially on monitors, iPads or small prints is questionable.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 10:31 |
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blackfox
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hmmm thanks for the quick reply Eric , but that doesn't really answer the question , lets put it this way what would you shoot in for wildlife use cant get my head round all the connotations .. processed a few from today and possibly slightly better in 14 bit , but would I be better off simply upgrading the camera body and would that then give a advantage in i.q and focussing ..or is the difference only marginal , I know j.k went from the d300 to the d500 is there that great a difference in what it produces
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 13:00 |
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Eric
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blackfox wrote:hmmm thanks for the quick reply Eric , but that doesn't really answer the question , lets put it this way what would you shoot in for wildlife use cant get my head round all the connotations .. processed a few from today and possibly slightly better in 14 bit , but would I be better off simply upgrading the camera body and would that then give a advantage in i.q and focussing ..or is the difference only marginal , I know j.k went from the d300 to the d500 is there that great a difference in what it produces The point I was making, obvious not clearly, was if you want to be absolutely bombproof sure that you get the best possible out of your currrent setup .....you need to shoot at 14bit raw, save the nefs uncompressed and process the files at 16bit. It can't get any better FOR ANY CAMERA. The question is whether the improvement is significant enough for you to put up with slower file handling, more file storage space and longer processing times. You can determine this empirically and only you can say if the benefit is worth it. Personally I think some are overkill. The second part of the question is whether a different camera sensor would be even better. (Of course with another camera you still have the same dilema as to whether 14bit/compressed files are any better on THAT camera.) For my part the D500 is a better camera than the D300 in most ways. And if someone dropped £1500 on your lap tomorrow I am sure you know what choice you would make. The problem is...where do you stop with comparisons? If you lined up a D5, D850, D500 they would all out perform a D300 in most departments. Opinions will differ as to which of those 3 is best (I've read some wildlife people say the D5 is best under low light conditions for example.)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 13:08 |
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blackfox
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cheers Eric , having looked at the funding options open to me for a d500 it will have to go on a back burner for the moment , I don't think I need the i.q from the 14 bit files either .. stick with what I have for the moment I suppose and wait for better weather to come along .. still got the Panasonic g80 and Leica 100-400 to so a bit pointless as i.q wise that's right up there with the d500 and with if required a totally silent shutter . ..
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 13:14 |
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Eric
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blackfox wrote:cheers Eric , having looked at the funding options open to me for a d500 it will have to go on a back burner for the moment , I don't think I need the i.q from the 14 bit files either .. stick with what I have for the moment I suppose and wait for better weather to come along .. It's a shame we are not located closer as you would have been welcome to try my D500. Of course if you got better photos out of it than I do, I may then have to kill you. 
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 13:57 |
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blackfox
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yep pity . you never know this summer we both have caravans so a crossing of paths is possible .. we will almost certainly have a week or so up bridlington way for bempton cliffs
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 16:06 |
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jk
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Hate to say this but my testing has shown that for BIF you need the best AF unit in camera. As Robert said steer away from the D7xxx cameras as they have poorer AF as they are prosumer. In all fairness for all except wildlife and action sports the AF will be good enough. I will post the AF units in each Nikon DSLR from the last 12/15 years in my next post. As Eric says to get best IQ shoot 14bit and in Photoshop save as 16bit TIFF. However nobody will see this quality unless you get it Fuji Frontera processed/printed but if you put on internet then straight away it goes to 8bit sRGB jpg.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 16:08 |
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jk
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Nikon Camera sizes and AF units. Model (MP) Wide xHigh x Deep AF Unit D7000 (16) 132 x 105 x 77 CAM3500DX D7100 (24) 136 x 107 x 76 CAM4800DX D7200 (24) 136 x 107 x 76 CAM4800DX D7500 (24) 136 x 107 x 76 CAM4800DX S2 pro (6) 140 x 111 x 78 CAM900 D70 (6) 140 x 111 x 78 CAM900 D80 (10) 132 x 103 x 77 CAM1000 D90 (12) 132 x 103 x 77 CAM1000 D200 (12) 147 x 114 x 74 CAM1000 D300 (12) 147 x 114 x 74 CAM3500 D300S (12) 147 x 114 x 74 CAM3500 D600 (24) 141 x 113 x 82 CAM4800 D610 (24) 141 x 113 x 82 CAM4800 D700 (12) 147 x 123 x 77 CAM3500 D800 (36) 146 x 123 x 82 CAM3500 D810 (36) 146 x 123 x 82 CAM3500 D750 (24) 141 x 113 x 78 CAM3500 D3 (12) 160 x 157 x 88 CAM3500 D3S (12) 160 x 157 x 88 CAM3500 D4 (16) 160 x 157 x 91 CAM3500 D500 (21) 148 x 115 x 81 CAM20K D5 (21) 160 x 159 x92 CAM20K D850 (45/24/12) 146 x 124 x 79 CAM20K
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2019 17:03 |
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blackfox
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What do those numbers actually equate to though Jonathon , how do you choose from those the ones that are the best for wildlife and sport and that's without bringing the lenses into the equation .. I think I already know but it could be helpful for future reference for others
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