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Hi jk

Correct in principle, but in practice the D800E seems to overexpose by about 1 to 1.2 stops so my normal setting is -0.7 EV.


Therefore EV=0, is an overexposure of +0.7.

The D4 just seems to nail it correctly without ned for exposure correction or PP.

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Thanks for the info. That is interesting as it implies that Nikon have improved the metering. I havent done any bird pictures with the D800 yet.



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funny you should bring this up j.k as its one of the main differences i noticed when changing from canon to a d7000 ,with my canons i always had to flick my + exp compensation right up for birds in flight .with the d7000 leaving it at 0 is more than sufficient ,two different approaches but as long as you know your camera/lenses and how they work as a combo who cares.

in fact heres one of mine from last week a little egret taken off the cuff exp comp set at -0.33 ev .theres no way i would have got this shot at this setting with a canon .camera d7000 ,lens 300mmf4 with 1.7tc .

 




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In both of those examples its a white bird against a 'light' blue sky, with no white clouds ...and parts of the birds are lit with direct sunlight.

The backlighting is therefore countered to a very large extent and I would have expected to keep the exp comp to a minimum.










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It is also dependent on the metering mode. I use Matrix Metering.

I have been shooting bee-eaters and hawks recently with the D3 but I need to use +1.7 or +2EV.



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You've convinced me Ed. The D4 is my next camera.

 




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And I discovered another reason today.
D4, 1.7 TC, 300 f4 ended up between me and the ground in some non-olympian athletics!

D4 ... Ok, just a war scratch.
300 OK, dent on lens hood.

TC - stuffed. Lens-mounting ring distorted. D4 couples perfectly to all lenses and focus is spot on.

Lucky but maybe an argument for always having a TC!

Ed

 




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Constable wrote:
Ed M

And I discovered another reason today.
D4, 1.7 TC, 300 f4 ended up between me and the ground in some non-olympian athletics!

D4 ... Ok, just a war scratch.
300 OK, dent on lens hood.

TC - stuffed. Lens-mounting ring distorted. D4 couples perfectly to all lenses and focus is spot on.

Lucky but maybe an argument for always having a TC!


Ed


No mention of the operators condition?



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Constable wrote: Ed M

And I discovered another reason today.
D4, 1.7 TC, 300 f4 ended up between me and the ground in some non-olympian athletics!

D4 ... Ok, just a war scratch.
300 OK, dent on lens hood.

TC - stuffed. Lens-mounting ring distorted. D4 couples perfectly to all lenses and focus is spot on.

Lucky but maybe an argument for always having a TC!

Ed

 

All OK I hope? I've been in a quandry wondering if I should get the D4 or wait to see if a DX version would be released under the D400 designation, but now, with your experiences I have no doubt. - EdM.

 




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Constable wrote:
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And I discovered another reason today.
D4, 1.7 TC, 300 f4 ended up between me and the ground in some non-olympian athletics!

D4 ... Ok, just a war scratch.
300 OK, dent on lens hood.

TC - stuffed. Lens-mounting ring distorted. D4 couples perfectly to all lenses and focus is spot on.

Lucky but maybe an argument for always having a TC!

Ed



When I got my gold medal in the D3/24-70 hurling event last year, the 24-70 disintegrated into several bits...but the mount stayed fixed and intact on the D3.

The lens was easily reassembled.

It made me wonder if there was a deliberate 'crumple-zone' in the modern lenses such that it sacrificially takes the impact in an area of least concern?



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