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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 15:13 |
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Constable
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Hi all In the middle of my hols on a flaky wlan so no pics. Thought someone might be interested. I took to bodies with me (D4 and D800E) with the main target being insect macro and birding. If anyone is having difficulties deciding where to invest their hard-earned pennies .... The ration D4:D800E shots to date is2:1. Macro is with with Nikkor 200 on D4 or Sigma 150 on D4/D800E Birding with 300 f4 +/- 1.7 TC on D4 or D800E. The D4/300/1.7 TC combination is very much better that the the D800E in DX mode with 300 (and infinitely better that 300 + TC). Anyone care to explain this? All at greater that 1/2000 so probably not a real technique/technical issue. More interesting, when I have taken just one body - if anyone knows the plain de Crau in Provence, you understand why just one body - the it is always the D4. The Nikkor 200 just flies on the D4 ... ISo 1600, 3200 is no problem and f 10 - f22 at 1/1200-1/2000 is easy. Good to know what anyone else is finding. Will post when i am not relying on French wlan at 2 kB/sec Ed
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 16:53 |
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Eric
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Constable wrote:Hi all Is this just magnification of pixel size limitation?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30th, 2012 00:18 |
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Constable
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Hi Eric Maybe ... can't really see with the laptop. Just as an appetizer a little bittern. D4 with TC1.7 and 300 f4, f 9, ISO 400 1/1250, heavily cropped and downrezzed, but otherwise straight from camera. Ed Attachment: D41_4375.jpg (Downloaded 90 times)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30th, 2012 05:20 |
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jk
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The bittern looks sharp enough and as you say it is a crop then it is pretty good. Cant explain the findings with the D800E other than it may be, as Eric says, down to pixel size.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 05:01 |
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highlander
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Being away for a while...can someone quickly explain what the difference between the D800 and D800E is and if this would have any bearing? I'm assuming the D4 and D800 are more akin to eachother as the D3 and D700 were or am I missing something?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 06:10 |
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Robert
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The D800 and D800E are the same camera. The D800E has had the anti aliasing filter removed/omitted for an extra cost. Said to increase sharpness with the possible penalty of moire in some images. The resolution is at the limit of Nikons best lenses. Even Nikon say you must use the sweet apertures to get full benefit from the resolution.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 07:28 |
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Eric
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highlander wrote:Being away for a while...can someone quickly explain what the difference between the D800 and D800E is and if this would have any bearing? As Robert says, plus... No....the D4 / D800 relationship is not the same as the D3 / D700, as the former pair have differing sensors and pixel power (16mp v 34mp)
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 08:23 |
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Iain
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The Bittern is spot on Ed. It takes sharpening really well.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 15:13 |
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Constable
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Hi Jan Yes, D800 and 800E differ only in the anti-alias. I ended up with the 800E because it is what was available and because I do not do wedding photography with fabrics. I am very much on the fence at the moment. The D4 is the logical replacement for the D3? - built like tank, reliable, reasonable IQ (not quite D3X but subjectively as good). The D800? is a bit like Churchill's response to a lady named Bossom (neither one think nor the other). It is not MF and the quality (with Nikon or Zeiss lenses) will never reach Hassy or Leica S2 standards.It has the form factor of the DSLR, but is far more discerning in the glass it likes and the technique. And just so I do not seem to be against the 800, here is a shot with 800E and naked 300 f4 - cropped but not much else. Ed Attachment: 800_3919.jpg (Downloaded 60 times)
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 17:53 |
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jk
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Ed, Looking at your images I notice that the EXIF says that you are using exposure compensation of EV0. I would normally use EV+1.7 for shots of birds against the sky. Do you use post processing to bring up the bird to normal exposure or some other technique to get them exposed as you have shown here ?
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