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D5200 released

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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 03:28

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Well no Nikon D400 this year. Instead we have a D5200 which is a 24MP camera.
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/11/05/nikon-d5200-and-wr-r10wr-t10-wireless-remote-controller-anoouncements.aspx/

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Posted by Iain: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 12:32

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Me thinks that the D400 my never arrive as I can see a replacement for the D7000 being the top DX body.

Posted by Squarerigger: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 12:37

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I thought I heard a loud cry of anguish from way up north - could be ArticRick :needsahug:

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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 14:41

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I do feel for those who really are waiting for a D7000 or D300 replacement.
Logically the next release period is just into January 2013 for the CES show or maybe later for the PMA show in April.

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Posted by Eric: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 15:28

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jk wrote:
I do feel for those who really are waiting for a D7000 or D300 replacement.

And yet, the D7000 and D300 take excellent photos. So while some wait for replacements, many are using the current offerings successfully.

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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 15:57

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I find my D300 much less 'good' a camera than my D700.
I think it is one of those things where I just dont know what it is but it doesnt seem to ever yield as good a result as my D3, D3s, D700.

Just me I guess.
It is not a DX thing as I get very good results from my X100, Xpro1, D1X and D70.

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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 15:58

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Posted by Eric: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 16:21

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jk wrote:
I find my D300 much less 'good' a camera than my D700.
I think it is one of those things where I just dont know what it is but it doesnt seem to ever yield as good a result as my D3, D3s, D700.

Just me I guess.
It is not a DX thing as I get very good results from my X100, XPro1, D1X and D70.
I think it WAS a DX thing.
The D300 was a step up from the D2X, but the D3/D700 was a double step up ...due to the FX sensor. The D300 always was inferior to the other two, but it's magnification effect diminished the impact.

I don't disagree with your observation. I sold my D300 because of this.
The problem is that the D7000 ( the next best DX camera ) isn't as fast at focusing as the D300.

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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 6th, 2012 17:55

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Interesting that you had a similar experience with the D300.

It wasnt an IQ thing exactly nor handling but I never seemed to be able to get the hi ISO performance I wanted (only 1 stop difference but 1600 compared to 3200ISO) from the D300 compared to the D700 so I was always compromising.

In sunny conditions no problem!

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Posted by Eric: Wed Nov 7th, 2012 04:36

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jk wrote: Interesting that you had a similar experience with the D300.

It wasnt an IQ thing exactly nor handling but I never seemed to be able to get the hi ISO performance I wanted (only 1 stop difference but 1600 compared to 3200ISO) from the D300 compared to the D700 so I was always compromising.

In sunny conditions no problem! I suspect the problem was it was always going to be compared to the D3 and D700 (especially with the latter's body similarity). Had it been launched on its own, like the D7000, we would have been less hypercritical.

For me it was perfectly noise free in daylight up to 2000...which when viewed from a 'film days' perspective is quite remarkable. And one perhaps should say ...'that's more than good enough'. But for indoor and specialist shooting it might not be.

At the time I did say that it probably would be the last pro DX body for sometime (if ever!), and current trends seem to confim that.

But then, what makes a 'pro' body these days?

For me its the speed of response, particularly focusing. I am not to bothered about robust titanium (or whatever) bodies as I dont mistreat mine like press pool bodies use to be.

If they were to just speed up the D7000 responsivness I bet the D7X00 would fulfill most pro DX needs.

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Posted by blackfox: Wed Nov 7th, 2012 09:49

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that really about sums it up eric .having recently acquired a D300s i find that i'm using in preference to my D7000 IF the light is right .the speed and ease of use makes the 7000 look like a toy ,but the noise /iso problems are also obvious to a great degree .
like everyone else sat on the fence and waiting for perfection but its taking its time appearing ,tried a D800 in a shop yesterday ,still checking out the files but can't see anything that would justify 2K for a body over what i already have.

.arrrrghhh the waiting game . :letsplay:

Posted by Iain: Mon Nov 19th, 2012 05:23

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The D7000 is a good camera but the controls are a bit harder to use and the focusing is that bit slower than the D300.
As Eric says if they sort out a few things it might be ok.

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