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Rumors again - D5? D400 - Page 3

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Posted: Mon Jan 6th, 2014 06:23

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Iain

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Eric wrote:
Iain wrote:
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Robert wrote:
The DX00 series are very popular, The D100 was a bit basic, but it was a competent camera in it's day. The D200 which I use as my prime camera is very good. The D300 and D300s are said to be an improvement although I am unconvinced that it was such an improvement. To me it wasn't worth trading my D200's in and shelling out for new bodies given I am more than happy with the results from the D200's.

The D400 is billed to be a significant improvement in line with and possibly exceeding the quality of the rest of the range, build quality and features, a sort of scaled down D4 without the D4 price tag. I don't believe the D300 was anything like a scaled down D3, it was just a slight upgrade of the D200, which in my opinion is why there is room for such a significant upgrade.

All that said, IF I were to get another camera body it would be FX. I have always regarded the DX sensor as a temporary expedient while Nikon discovered how to make a proper sensor (FX).

I see a D3 in my bag one day, perhaps wishful thinking but I am having lunch today with my buddy who supplies most of my gear nowadays and he tells me he has a 'rough' D3 in at the moment, so I may have a play... (Rough to him means it has a scratch on the bottom and the corners are rubbed.) I could live with a scratch on the bottom and rubbed corners for the quality of images from the D3!

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I actually thought there was a noticeable improvement in the D300 over the D200 in terms of noise reduction. Unfortunately it was over shadowed by the D3 which was significantly better ....because if it's FX sensor with same MPs.

I always found that an equivalently cropped D3 image was as good as the image out of the D300. For this reason alone, I sold the D300, to decomplex my equipment choices.

My experience with the D7000 has been a mixed bag. It was bought as a lightweight walk around camera and as such it's been used with lightweight DX lenses. The results are ok ...but not as good as the D3.

Whether they would be as good or better than the D3 fast FX lenses, I cannot say. Using pro lenses with the D7000 would defeat the object of a less bulky, lighter walkaround camera...so don't intend to go that route.

But arguably, as technology has moved forward, the D7000 and D7100 using the best lenses SHOULD by now, have better IQ than the D3.

Trouble is....all things being equal the FX sensor with bigger pixels,will always have the edge.

I am surprised more people lusting after a D400 haven't bought the D800 and cropped !

The D800 is just a bit too slow for sporty and wildlife. I know a few guys that use it for wildlife and wish it was a bit faster and they tend to keep it in crop mode all the time.

I think that if Nikon bring out a D400 they better make sure they have good stock of them as most of the Nikon users I know would be in there ordering one.

Slow in what way Iain?

Is the buffer speed?

It's frame rate and buffer Eric, it's better in crop mode but still a little slow.

I've played with one a few times and also talked to guys that are using the D800 . They would have been happier if it had a bigger buffer,which could be done with a firmware up grade, and 7-8 fps.

Posted: Sat Jan 11th, 2014 10:41

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Graham Whistler

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I regret getting rid of my D300 with 18-200mm lens, when I got the D800 as DX has some major advantages for travel. A bag full of lenses +D800 takes up lots of room and weight on travel.

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Posted: Sat Jan 11th, 2014 11:52

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I agree, Graham.

The 18-200 gets a lot of criticism but it really packs a lot for it's size and weight.

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Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2014 03:49

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Graham Whistler

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I have also got the new 24-120 f4 AF-S for the D800 but it is not nearly as good as my other FX lenses and at 24mm there is serious vignetting in the corners. Sharpness is not as good as my 70-24mm f2.8 AF-S.

So yes I could well be interested in a D400 and my old friend 18-200 for future travel pix.

Perhaps I should not tell you that my latest camera is the new Sony RX100 M2 replacing my Nikon V1 as a small very portable with you all the time camera. The results from it are amazing quality and the full HD res AVCHD movie with steady cam is very good. It even has app connection to iPhone to control the camera remotely!

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Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2014 04:00

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I have been looking for reviews of the 24-120 f4 AFS as it is a useful walk about focal lens range.
I currently use a 35-105mm f3.5 AF but it definitely shows its age when you put it on a D800 but it performs well enough on all my other camera.

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Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2014 04:30

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Graham Whistler

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It is as you say a good walk about lens and I find the f4 rather than f2.8 is no problem for normal photography when you shoot f8-f16 most of the time. In that range sharpness is not a problem. The vignetting at 24mm is a pain and when I got the lens I complained to my local camera shop and we tried another lens and it did the same!

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Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2014 06:08

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Eric

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Graham Whistler wrote:
I have also got the new 24-120 f4 AF-S for the D800 but it is not nearly as good as my other FX lenses and at 24mm there is serious vignetting in the corners. Sharpness is not as good as my 70-24mm f2.8 AF-S.

So yes I could well be interested in a D400 and my old friend 18-200 for future travel pix.

Perhaps I should not tell you that my latest camera is the new Sony RX100 M2 replacing my Nikon V1 as a small very portable with you all the time camera. The results from it are amazing quality and the full HD res AVCHD movie with steady cam is very good. It even has app connection to iPhone to control the camera remotely!

You are not alone in deserting Nikon when it comes to lightweight 'travel' cameras.

Several of us have fallen for the Fuji X series system. Although not as pocketable as the Sony, the Fuji XE1 produces image quality comparable to the Nikon D3. It has functionality quirks that are alien to hardened Nikon users, but with a camera and two lenses (18-55, 55-200) lighter than the 24-70 lens it's ideal for walking about.

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Posted: Mon Jan 13th, 2014 10:06

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Given they out the D4 bits and bobs in the Df body, and made it half the price of the D4 I would be very surprised if we don't see a D5 soon

I'd love a Df but alas, no funds :-(

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Posted: Mon Jan 13th, 2014 17:56

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Eric

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highlander wrote:
I would be very surprised if we don't see a D5 soon

The D4S is on its way.... for now. ;-)

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Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2014 10:02

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I think the Df in silver and black looks strange but in black it seems to be more acceptable.

Maybe I just got used to having beautiful black cameras. :-)

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