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| Posted: Mon Mar 7th, 2016 04:46 |
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Robert
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Went on a bike ride yesterday. This was one of my captures. D300s, 80-200 f2.8 Trombone type 200mm @ f11, 1/800 sec ISO500 (Auto ISO)  Shortly after the first image I caught this: Same exposure data.  I guess they were feeding on water weeds. At full magnification you can see beads of water on the feathers.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 7th, 2016 08:38 |
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jk
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Nice. That water must be absolutely freezing! I really prefer the action of the trombone for zoom rather than the current twist. I have a 80-200 f2.8 trombone but it is only AF not AFS so it gets used less these days.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 8th, 2016 17:57 |
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Eric
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Yeah...the D300 is only a minor upgrade on the D200. Nice images Robert.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 9th, 2016 02:09 |
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Robert
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Thanks Eric, I am finding using A mode which I have in general except when photographing panoramas and starscapes, that I have to work quite hard on the image to get the contrast and definition, image clarity with the D300. Those Swan images 'straight-out of the can' were rubbish. The swans were pure white, all over BUT using Lightroom and pulling back the highlights and whites, then introducing about 25 points of Clarity and a little vibrance it improved the image a lot. I am finding the new adjustment 'Dehaze' very useful, it really does get rid of annoying distance haze in images. You can of course add haze for effect if you wish. To get the final touch I still find I have to take the image into Ps and apply levels, I can't find a way of adjusting levels in Lightroom in the same was as I can in Photoshop, I still use the reverse slide technique to find the black and white points. That for me adds the final touch of clarity. There is definitely a LOT more range in a D300 NEF than there is in a D200 NEF. I would never have managed to pull back those Swans they would have blown the whites completely. As taken, note the histo not blown at either end:  After processing in Lightroom and levels in Photoshop, note the settings and the improvement in tone and definition: 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 9th, 2016 04:30 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Thanks Eric, I am finding using A mode which I have in general except when photographing panoramas and starscapes, that I have to work quite hard on the image to get the contrast and definition, image clarity with the D300. Hmmm...I think you have over done it. On my screen those swans aren't white any more, more like grey yearlings. That's borne out by the absence of any spectacular whites on your histogram. In bright sunlight a white swan will have blown out areas, I accept you want to pull them back a tad if the cameras meters don't judge it right. However, I think, in trying to get more definition everywhere on the bird you are loosing the brightness on a sunlight swan that your eyes see. Just my opinion. 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 9th, 2016 04:49 |
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Eric
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You may disagree ....but in the example below it didn't matter to me that the wing tips were burning out because the definition was clearly evident elsewhere. Attachment: image.jpeg (Downloaded 19 times)
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| Posted: Wed Mar 9th, 2016 13:40 |
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Robert
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No I don't disagree, thanks for pointing it out.  I will reprocess them bearing in mind your comments, I appreciate your input.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 9th, 2016 17:15 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:No I don't disagree, thanks for pointing it out. Can I recommend the Plowden technique of establishing max highlight point? I use it all the time. 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10th, 2016 02:53 |
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Robert
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Currently this isn't available in Adobe Lightroom, most of the adjustment controls in Lr are very competent and work well, after all, Lr shares ACR with Photoshop. A very important control, levels, as not available in Lr the same form as it is in Ps. In fact I haven't been able to make the histogram adjustments in Lr, work in any useful way to set the black and white points as we can in Ps. I now do most of my image adjustments in Lr but have to export the image to Ps to set the black and white points and apply a stroke border and the copyright text. When I am tired or think 'it's near enough' I don't bother. On some images I am unable to get the black and white points right in Lr, so I have to resort to Ps to make the image better (right). On the whole I find I am getting 'cleaner' brighter more pleasing images processing in Lightroom but that is probably due to my poor technique in Photoshop. It's just so much easier in Lr, especially for stacks like star trails and time lapse batches. It does make a lot of difference to an image when the black and white points are right. In this case I'm not sure it's the software fault, I am pretty sure it's me trying, as Eric said to get feather detail on the entire swan area of the image which resulted in a dirty swan. Right now I have a little digger waiting for me so I must get outside and use it before the owner decides I have had it long enough! It sure beats a pick and shovel! 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10th, 2016 05:52 |
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jk
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Is that your digger Robert? Can you drive it. I guess the answer is Yes.
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