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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 17th, 2018 04:19 1st Post
I believe that this development puts us one step away from availabilty of cameras that remove the need for both mechanical shutters as well as mirror mechanisms. All that is required is to step up the MP count to match current generation counts.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/1945724359/sensor-breakthrough-sony-has-developed-a-backlit-cmos-sensor-with-global-shutter

OK there are still issues with modern EVF (electronic viewfinders) as the pixel count needs to reach 5-6MP (I believe) to truly replace the mirror and pentaprism viewing system but the pixel count is now in excess of 3.7MP in the EVF.



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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 17th, 2018 07:49 2nd Post
I expect that by 2020 that cameras with mirrors and pentaprisms will be antique technology.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 05:42 3rd Post
jk wrote:
I expect that by 2020 that cameras with mirrors and pentaprisms will be antique technology.
Not based on current offerings. They are a long way off being a panacea for all photographic genre.

Then again, what do I know? I was present when the first trial production run of a new snack food took place. I said categorically they would never catch on as an alternative to crisps. They were Hula Hoops.:lol:

Having used the Fuji for bird photography recently, viewfinder black out and battery drain are a serious issue. They need to sort those two imposters out to win my vote for total mirrorless photography.

I regard them, as we do when looking back at the shoe size mobile phones we saw in the 80s. Whether they can, or have the will to, sort out the primitive nature of mirrorless in 2 years, is debatable.

Of course, the car industry has to sort out ITS battery life issues pdq ....so may be there will be technology spin off



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Posted by jk: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 15:16 4th Post
Current cameras have mirror slap and blackout issues.
The biggest problem with current EVF is that they are <3MP so arent as good as pentaprism and mirror technology. When >5MP EVF comes which is by 2020 probably then old tech is dead in the water.



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Posted by amazing50: Thu Feb 22nd, 2018 05:34 5th Post
jk wrote:
I expect that by 2020 that cameras with mirrors and pentaprisms will be antique technology.
And I am eagerly anticipating the delivery of an Intrepid 8x10 camera this spring.:lol:



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Posted by Eric: Thu Feb 22nd, 2018 10:29 6th Post
jk wrote:
Current cameras have mirror slap and blackout issues.
The biggest problem with current EVF is that they are <3MP so arent as good as pentaprism and mirror technology. When >5MP EVF comes which is by 2020 probably then old tech is dead in the water.

I am not sure I regard that as a big negative for me. It's less of an irritation than the blackout issue and the battery life.

But I confess I have been challenging the Fuji and myself trying to shoot small birds in the garden...and having some success. Either the camera or I are getting a bit better at tracking fast moving small birds. :lol:

Of course it slows them down if you chuck a few peanuts about.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Feb 22nd, 2018 10:36 7th Post
Nut free version

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Posted by Bob Bowen: Fri Feb 23rd, 2018 06:01 8th Post
Thanks Eric I had come out in a rash.



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Posted by jk: Fri Feb 23rd, 2018 07:45 9th Post
Practice makes perfect ;-)
I shoot more and more with my Fuji XT2 but the D850 produces incredible output.



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Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 23rd, 2018 07:48 10th Post
jk wrote:
but the D850 produces incredible output.
Would that be the obsolete, out of date, antique camera?

:lol::lol::lol:



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Posted by jk: Fri Feb 23rd, 2018 09:31 11th Post
Yes, Nikon still producing D3s cameras but with updated sensor! :lol::devil:



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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 23rd, 2018 09:52 12th Post
Bob Bowen wrote:
Thanks Eric I had come out in a rash.
Sorry about that Bob....will put advance health warning on any future nut postings.:lol: In fact it may be sensible to give health warning s with all my Fuji shots. :lol:

You are safe with this one ....

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Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 23rd, 2018 15:13 13th Post
jk wrote:
Yes, Nikon still producing D3s cameras but with updated sensor! :lol::devil:
I like it!



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Posted by Iain: Sat Feb 24th, 2018 08:07 14th Post
I still thin they have a long way to go before the masses doing wildlife photography use them.

March tit D500 & sigma 150-600mm

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Posted by Iain: Sat Feb 24th, 2018 08:08 15th Post
Next time I post a pic I must over sharpen it and it might look right on the forum.

:lol:



Posted by jk: Sat Feb 24th, 2018 10:11 16th Post
Iain wrote:
Next time I post a pic I must over sharpen it and it might look right on the forum.

:lol:
I thought that you got it spot on. Look at the feathers around the head. Visible and just the merest hint of halo!



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 24th, 2018 12:45 17th Post
Iain wrote:
I still thin they have a long way to go before the masses doing wildlife photography use them.

March tit D500 & sigma 150-600mm

Very nice Iain....on two counts....the sharpness and the lack of branches!

I can see I will have to leave my armchair and stop shooting through double glazing and get the wifes agreement to savagely prune the trees in the garden. :lol:



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Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 24th, 2018 19:51 18th Post
I can see you achieving the first two but pruning branches... :no:

o.O



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Posted by Iain: Sun Feb 25th, 2018 11:18 19th Post
Eric wrote:
Iain wrote:
I still thin they have a long way to go before the masses doing wildlife photography use them.

March tit D500 & sigma 150-600mm

Very nice Iain....on two counts....the sharpness and the lack of branches!

I can see I will have to leave my armchair and stop shooting through double glazing and get the wifes agreement to savpagely prune the trees in the garden. :lol:

The pruning of the trees might be a problem :lol:


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