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Posted by Robert: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 17:28 1st Post
Today, yesterday? I took a detour down an old road I haven't been along for years, in the past a favourite place of mine.  I spotted a windswept old Yew, an outstanding example, but the roots and lower trunk really caught my attention. I didn't have my camera with me, cursing a bit because the afternoon light was good, I suddenly realised I did have a camera (of sorts) with me, my trusty iPhone 6 plus.  I thought a would give it a try, nothing to loose.  I have turned off that annoying feature which it has of taking a series of exposures the choosing the 'best', so it was a simple single exposure, no HDR.

There is no bark on the trunk or roots, the lines of wood grain are the actual core wood of the tree, how it draws sap I have no idea.  The tree is healthy and green, right next to the Leven estuary, part of Morecambe bay.
I processed it in Photo's on my iMac.  What do you think?  I have another of the whole tree, I might be persuaded to post that here as well if you don't laugh at this one too much! :lol:




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Posted by jk: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 18:05 2nd Post
It looks fine at this size Robert.  I wouldnt want to enlarge it much more though as it will soon lose quality.  Apple and other phone manufacturers do say it is possible but not successfully IMHO.



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Posted by Robert: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 18:25 3rd Post
Thanks JK, I wasn't thinking of larger, to my idea it's way too big...



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Posted by Eric: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 19:03 4th Post
Robert wrote:
Thanks JK, I wasn't thinking of larger, to my idea it's way too big... Looks ok to me on screen, Robert.
I've got an iPhone 6 and have used images in a photobook ok...(not full page of course!)...though I can see the difference.
They are lacking in edge contrast (I suppose that's another way of saying unsharp mask) but they won't take the amount of sharpening to lift them to DSLR level. For me the biggest contributor to loss of clarity is how we hold the device.

We all learnt that for handholding, the shutter speeds should be faster than the inverse of the focal length of the lens. We soon learnt more, in that sensor size and pixel density all impact on this formula, as does how we hold the device. Greater pixel density needs faster shutter speed.

On the recent trip with Graham and Mike to snettisham, both mike and I took some videos. The one I posted was Mikes shot on his Panasonic FZ1000. I wouldn't dream of posting my versions! Despite using a 'better' camera and lens combination, holding the camera and long lens at arms length whilst viewing the back screen created footage we would all get sea sick after only a few minutes. Atrocious!

Mike was holding his mirrorless camera up to his eye and achieved far greater stability.

Yes I could/should have used a tripod. You know, those aluminium/carbon fibre/metal things with legs we leave at home or in the car. 😆 

My point is this....I think if we braced ourselves and supported the iphones we would get much closer to DSLR quality. It's technique that lets us down when we stray from traditional camera hand holding.


Just looking at the exif ....did you or the phone choose those settings?  F2.2@1/1202th and 25iso, using a 4.2mm lens.  It shows the dof benefit of smaller sensors and wide focal lengths.



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Posted by Robert: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 03:16 5th Post
Thanks Eric, will reply more fully later, having to dash out...



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 08:22 6th Post
Looks very good to me there are now at least two people who have been awarded recently ARPS with the Royal who do not give the award for anything less than 15 very high quality images.



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Posted by jk: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 09:24 7th Post
Quality is a subjective judgement.

I guess the images were high quality in the context that they were taken on a tool with limitations.
I dont know the criteria for their assessment as I believe like most of these assessments are somewhat subjective.  I guess they must use the same criteria as for other submissions made by candidates using superior tools.


One thing that I will say is that RPS does have a consistently high quality process and criteria unlike that demonstrated in the past by some/many of the Southern Counties Photographic Federation judges.  When I joined my first photography club (Beckenham) I attended several competitions and was astounded by the poor standard of judging (favouritism, parochial commenting, stilted assessment).  It put me off participating in any club for the next 30 years, instead I had my images judged by my clients and customers.



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