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Posted: Sat May 26th, 2018 17:34
 
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You guys just lack commitment, just get a D5 each and then you can find out for sure.

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I keep saying the D850 is all you need. (I have tried the D5 when I purchased the D850 and for birds not as good ) This pix today is 500mm F4 plus x1.4 hand held 1/800 sec VR f13 ISO 1250

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See wahat I mean? This blow up from above would make a spot on 16x12 inch exhibition quality print.

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Plenty of reach and sharpness there Graham. Excellent as always.



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Graham Whistler wrote:
I keep saying the D850 is all you need. (I have tried the D5 when I purchased the D850 and for birds not as good ) This pix today is 500mm F4 plus x1.4 hand held 1/800 sec VR f13 ISO 1250
I have to say I found it to be the other way round. The D5 locks on a little bit quicker and the noise is less.
After trying all three taking sporting action I would put then D5, D500 and D850 but thats just my opinion.

 




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All three have their attributes from a photographic point of view.

I see the D5 as king, versatile, robust and very high quality images but expensive if you don't need the robust, or incredible speed.

The D500 as little sister of the D5 with DX and better spread of AF points, almost as robust and almost as fast.

The D850 as I see it is ultimate quality image, with wonderful dynamic range and resolution but looses a tad on the speed, focusing and robustness, also expensive and very demanding of computer power for post processing and storage.



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Robert wrote:
All three have their attributes from a photographic point of view.

I see the D5 as king, versatile, robust and very high quality images but expensive if you don't need the robust, or incredible speed.

The D500 as little sister of the D5 with DX and better spread of AF points, almost as robust and almost as fast.

The D850 as I see it is ultimate quality image, with wonderful dynamic range and resolution but looses a tad on the speed, focusing and robustness, also expensive and very demanding of computer power for post processing and storage.


I would agree.

 




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D500-D850 auto focus and holding focus in action both much the same. Noise on D850 is better and you can use higher ISO. A shown above, in youg starling pix, you can get large sharp images for D850 with fine detail and I would doubt if D5 would score so highly in this area but I did only get to use one for a day.



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Graham Whistler wrote:
D500-D850 auto focus and holding focus in action both much the same. Noise on D850 is better and you can use higher ISO. A shown above, in youg starling pix, you can get large sharp images for D850 with fine detail and I would doubt if D5 would score so highly in this area but I did only get to use one for a day.

Yes, but my complaint with FX is that the AF points cover a much smaller proportion of the image than with DX. AFAIK that holds true between the D5/D850 and the D500.

It drive me nuts sometimes. I don't always, in fact I rarely want the point of focus in the centre of the image. I know you can acquire focus, lock then re-frame but I don't want the faffing about that entails especially with moving subjects.

The focus points on FX should have a similar distribution on FX as they do on DX, it seems like a cost cutting measure to utilise the same AF module on both formats.



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Robert wrote:
Graham Whistler wrote:
D500-D850 auto focus and holding focus in action both much the same. Noise on D850 is better and you can use higher ISO. A shown above, in youg starling pix, you can get large sharp images for D850 with fine detail and I would doubt if D5 would score so highly in this area but I did only get to use one for a day.

Yes, but my complaint with FX is that the AF points cover a much smaller proportion of the image than with DX. AFAIK that holds true between the D5/D850 and the D500.

It drive me nuts sometimes. I don't always, in fact I rarely want the point of focus in the centre of the image. I know you can acquire focus, lock then re-frame but I don't want the faffing about that entails especially with moving subjects.

The focus points on FX should have a similar distribution on FX as they do on DX, it seems like a cost cutting measure to utilise the same AF module on both formats.


Yes that is correct. The DX spread of AF points in the viewfinder is greater than on an FX camera.
If I want a better control of points then I switch to AF-C mode with Dynamic which seems to work well especially with wideanglelenses.



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