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I have always had a passing interest in sculptures. Not the creating, far too difficult and protracted for me. But I've admired work and photographed it many times.

I recently had the opportunity to visit the gallery of David d'Angers in Angers, France.

Pierre Jean David as he was named was a 19th century sculpture of incredible talent. Having seen many of Michelangelo's sculptures work up close, I have to say that David's work is BETTER!

If anyone travels to the lovely city of Angers, seek out the gallery in an old church a short walk from Angers castle. The best 4 euros of the holiday!

On display are a range of his work from small to LARGE.

For example this statue with real people to compare....

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The detail even in these size reduced files is amazing.....

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Not just the faces but the detail in the clothes.....

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The fine detail in the accoutrements was also outstanding....

(Even when the software rotates the image!!)

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It's interesting as the detail is so good you can actually see what 19th century people looked like. Here's Paganini...

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Of course there are amusing photo opportunities even in a gallery.

This serious young man was wandering around to keep an eye on people, to ensure they don't run off with a 3ton statue or carve 'Eric was ere 2018' on the works of art...he was always close at hand.

So I immortalised him alongside his charges...the great and the good of the 1800s....

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Not the best statue, and I couldn't reach the cobwebs, but I liked the lighting and background....

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Very impressive Eric, and we think we are clever!

There are many fine examples of craftsmanship around the world which can only be wondered at.

We tend to say that with all our technology we can't achieve that level of skill, I would turn that around and consider that perhaps BECAUSE of all the technology we are loosing hands on skills.

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Very impressive Eric, and we think we are clever!

There are many fine examples of craftsmanship around the world which can only be wondered at.

We tend to say that with all our technology we can't achieve that level of skill, I would turn that around and consider that perhaps BECAUSE of all the technology we are loosing hands on skills.

You are quite right.

Although we are artists, so to speak, I have never considered photography, media and cinematography to be on the same level as sculpting, carving and painting.

Our finished product isn't as 3D, tactile or influenced by modelling light.

Like I said....I'm too impatient to labour for days and days for my end product. That's why I created so many Actions in Photoshop. :lol:

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Forgot to say, his small relief work was also superb.

Here's one that might interest our American members...

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Eric wrote:
Of course there are amusing photo opportunities even in a gallery.

This serious young man was wandering around to keep an eye on people, to ensure they don't run off with a 3ton statue or carve 'Eric was ere 2018' on the works of art...he was always close at hand.

So I immortalised him alongside his charges...the great and the good of the 1800s....

I would be very careful Eric, the security fellow does not look like the type anyone would want to provoke!

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Eric wrote:
Not just the faces but the detail in the clothes.....
Love the light in this image #3.

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What I find something of a conundrum is the current quest for more and more detail in photographs, beyond what is usually visible to the naked eye, or even reproducible on a screen.

When you look at these statues they are crude by comparison with todays technology... :hardhat: A 3D printer could make much more accurate representations of the subjects.

Yet they embrace the reality of the day, the mood and presence the subjects portrayed.

Art is far beyond minute detail of multi million pixels (or 3D blobs), it can be amazingly crude, yet so realistic, conveying the intentions of the artist at the same time.

To me that is the gift of the artist, to convey the message, the medium doesn't matter too much, nor does the absolute detail.

Capturing the moment in light.

Cartoonists are an example of simplistic capture of a sitters character, from a brief encounter a good cartoonist can capture the essence of the sitter. To me that is art, to be able to portray simply, by whatever medium.

o.O

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Robert wrote:
What I find something of a conundrum is the current quest for more and more detail in photographs, beyond what is usually visible to the naked eye, or even reproducible on a screen.

When you look at these statues they are crude by comparison with todays technology... :hardhat: A 3D printer could make much more accurate representations of the subjects.

Yet they embrace the reality of the day, the mood and presence the subjects portrayed.

Art is far beyond minute detail of multi million pixels (or 3D blobs), it can be amazingly crude, yet so realistic, conveying the intentions of the artist at the same time.

To me that is the gift of the artist, to convey the message, the medium doesn't matter too much, nor does the absolute detail.

Capturing the moment in light.

Cartoonists are an example of simplistic capture of a sitters character, from a brief encounter a good cartoonist can capture the essence of the sitter. To me that is art, to be able to portray simply, by whatever medium.

o.O

Part of the beauty of sculpture is the ability of ambient light to enhance the 3d shape. In 2d artwork like photos, all we can rely on is capturing a representation of that moment. I suspect that's where sharpness comes in....we are trying to elevate the 3d experience as much as we can.

I would also state the obvious and say it's the shape, line, angle, position, arrangement, expression, lighting etc etc ...that makes a snap into a photograph. Without that extra component it's just a record shot.

Nothing wrong with that....but if you are wanting to create a photographic work of art, there needs to be something more, for which sharpness alone won't compensate.

That's what makes photography so hard....for me at least. o.O

The skilled cartoonist sees that one characteristic that epitomises the sitter, moment, whatever. We need to do the same with photographs ...and if successful, the pixels won't matter tha5 much.

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Well lit you have captured the fine detail. Thanks for sharing your images Eric.

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Not sure if this should have beenĀ in Bird Photography?:-)

Visited this interesting place which features various artist's work with a Nature in Art theme....



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