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Posted by Robert: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 03:24 1st Post
Weather permitting the event should be visible in be visible in NW France, NW Spain, Portugal, almost the whole of North and South America and the Eastern Pacific.

The super part of the description comes from the moon being relatively close to Earth, 7% larger and 15% brighter. The Wolf bit comes from it being a January full moon. It is a total eclipse, in the UK the moon will be visible throughout the eclipse, weather permitting.

The forecast is for thin layers of high partial cloud, so it's a maybe... Patience required, together with large flask of coffee.

The last such full event until 2029.

D800, the Nikkor 300mm f/2.8 and my heaviest tripod. ^_^

A big heavy polar mount would be good, if I can get my head around stepper motors and their controllers, that could be possible in the future.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/explore/lunar-eclipse

Update: The weather seems best in Cornwall and the North, Wales and the Eastern parts of England less good. Scotland West poor, Eastern side better.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 06:35 2nd Post
Robert wrote:
Weather permitting the event should be visible in be visible in NW France, NW Spain, Portugal, almost the whole of North and South America and the Eastern Pacific.

The super part of the description comes from the moon being relatively close to Earth, 7% larger and 15% brighter. The Wolf bit comes from it being a January full moon. It is a total eclipse, in the UK the moon will be visible throughout the eclipse, weather permitting.

The forecast is for thin layers of high partial cloud, so it's a maybe... Patience required, together with large flask of coffee.

The last such full event until 2029.


D800, the Nikkor 300mm f/2.8 and my heaviest tripod. ^_^

A big heavy polar mount would be good, if I can get my head around stepper motors and their controllers, that could be possible in the future.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/explore/lunar-eclipse

Update: The weather seems best in Cornwall and the North, Wales and the Eastern parts of England less good. Scotland West poor, Eastern side better.


Presumably this was a lesser version that I photographed back in 2015?
I wish you luck ...it will be cold on Monday so won't be repeating it.

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Posted by jk: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 08:08 3rd Post
Robert wrote:
Weather permitting the event should be visible in be visible in NW France, NW Spain, Portugal, almost the whole of North and South America and the Eastern Pacific.

The super part of the description comes from the moon being relatively close to Earth, 7% larger and 15% brighter. The Wolf bit comes from it being a January full moon. It is a total eclipse, in the UK the moon will be visible throughout the eclipse, weather permitting.

The forecast is for thin layers of high partial cloud, so it's a maybe... Patience required, together with large flask of coffee.

The last such full event until 2029.

D800, the Nikkor 300mm f/2.8 and my heaviest tripod. ^_^

A big heavy polar mount would be good, if I can get my head around stepper motors and their controllers, that could be possible in the future.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/explore/lunar-eclipse

Update: The weather seems best in Cornwall and the North, Wales and the Eastern parts of England less good. Scotland West poor, Eastern side better.

I have it all planned.
Got to be in place at 4:30am for a full set of images around 5:12am.
Just hoping that the weather is clear.



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Posted by jk: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 16:49 4th Post
Hopefully I will get super blood wolf moon over Headland Point at 5:12am.

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Posted by Robert: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 17:49 5th Post
Good luck JK, I am about to grab a bit of shuteye, plan to leave here about 3am, 30 minutes drive to Stickle Pike, set up and see what I get.

Thinking of doing time lapse with the D3 with the Nikkor 105 f/2.5 and specific shots with the D800 with the Nikkor 300 f/2.8. I haven't used the 300 on the D800 before, will be interesting.

Mind you I am very tired right now so I may not even wake up!

Right now we have clear skies with a little cloud near the horizon, hardly any wind, reasonably mild (for January very mild).



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Posted by jk: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 06:22 6th Post
Weather was fine, a little cold. Just got to process the images. For some reason the planned place the moon was higher in the sky than I wanted but still got theshots.
Mirrorless is not as good as traditional DSLR for these type of shoots as the EVF gets noisy.



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Posted by Robert: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 06:48 7th Post
jk wrote:
Mirrorless is not as good as traditional DSLR for these type of shoots as the EVF gets noisy.
!!! LOL, I had the exact same issue with the D800!

I was struggling to get sharp focus on the moon with the 300 f/2.8 (Ai) on the D800, so I resorted to live view at 100% zoom, the red dots of the blood moon were dancing all over the screen. I had to zoom out a bit to get a firmer image, I think I nailed it eventually.

I took about 450 exposures with the D800 and the 300mm lens, used about 70% of the battery. The D3 took 270 exposures and completely flattened my TWO best, freshly charged batteries. :-(

It was very cold but almost no wind. Probably minus 5ÂșC?

All the images are now loaded into Lr, let the fun begin.



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Posted by jk: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 07:30 8th Post
All done.

First of a set.

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Posted by jk: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 07:30 9th Post
Another one.  A wider vista towards Newquay from my location.

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Posted by jk: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 07:32 10th Post
Another one.  The lunar rise before the eclipse.

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Posted by jk: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 07:32 11th Post
And the sunset.

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Posted by Eric: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 11:17 12th Post
Well done Jonathan, it's a lot redder than the straightforward eclipse I did in 2015. I had 1000mm ready but there was just cloud. :needsahug:



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Posted by Robert: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 12:07 13th Post
Look good JK, I have selected a set, just not had time to process and post them.
o.O

Have been very tired, will try tonight.

Noise is certainly an issue with the moon, I have had to dump the first group, partly noise and partly poor focus.

This is a screen grab from a 'better' early NEF, straight out of the camera. Pretty grotty, ISO 3200.

300mm, 1/100sec at f/2.8, 100% crop.

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Posted by Robert: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 14:40 14th Post
This is the closest exposure to maximum eclipse according to time.

I had the ISO far too high, would have been better to go with a rather longer exposure I think. Later on I did reduce the ISO and the results are much better.

I want to create a collage with a series of exposures throughout the series. I will attempt to cobble something together in Ps with layers. I think one image is a bit boring, once you have seen one moon shot they are pretty well all the same, need to do something different.

I have tried to include the landscape but using the Fisheye the moon is a mere dot.

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Posted by jk: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 15:32 15th Post
All my images are from my Fuji XT3, 100-400mm lens at 1/60th (approx), f5.6 at ISO3200.
I did do a bit of WB adjustment and sharpening but nothing more than that.
Resized in Lightroom for sRGB and 2048pixels long edge.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 18:13 16th Post
Does it count if I change my moon eclipse colour a bit?
I would have got up if the sky wasn't thick cloud here....honest :lol:

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 18:26 17th Post
Well done, all interesting images, I was in bed!



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Posted by Eric: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 18:27 18th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Well done, all interesting images, I was in bed!

So was I Graham....but sent my chief scout out to check at 5am (told her to be quiet getting back into bed if it was cloudy) :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 18:33 19th Post
According to my exif metadata, the settings I used for the eclipse back in 2015 were ....1/2sec @5.6 and 1250 iso using the D750 and the Sigma 500mm lens. This explains the slightly softer image of the eclipsed moon compared to the full light moon taken earlier at faster settings.

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Posted by Robert: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 13:49 20th Post
Well I finally caught up, this is my series of images of the Blood Moon.

This is a nice or crappy photo, depending on your opinion! I took this just as the eclipse beginning.



This a series of the build up to the full eclipse, D800 with Nikkor ai 300mm f/2.8 at 2.8 ISO 3200, I now realise I was really too high with the ISO which has resulted in rather noisy images.



This composite is after the eclipse, each exposure was at three minute intervals.



This is with the exposure adjusted for the bright parts of the moon.



After the eclipse I took some landscapes by moonlight, which was diffused by cloud which swept in almost unnoticed as the eclipse finished. Lens used 16mm f/2.8 fisheye.





Finally, snow capped Ulpha Fell across Dunnerdale.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 15:01 21st Post
Robert wrote:
Well I finally caught up, this is my series of images of the Blood Moon.

This is a nice or crappy photo, depending on your opinion! I took this just as the eclipse beginning.



This a series of the build up to the full eclipse, D800 with Nikkor ai 300mm f/2.8 at 2.8 ISO 3200, I now realise I was really too high with the ISO which has resulted in rather noisy images.



This composite is after the eclipse, each exposure was at three minute intervals.



This is with the exposure adjusted for the bright parts of the moon.



After the eclipse I took some landscapes by moonlight, which was diffused by cloud which swept in almost unnoticed as the eclipse finished. Lens used 16mm f/2.8 fisheye.





Finally, snow capped Ulpha Fell across Dunnerdale.


Brill. :bowing:



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Posted by jk: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 15:24 22nd Post
The landscapes look a little blue/cold on my ipad.
I need to look on my MacPro with colour calibrated screen.

ISO3200 should be not too noisy on the D800. I have a D800 also and cant say that it is particularly noisy at that ISO which is normal ISO for my flamenco work.

I have difficulty with using ISO3200 and above as I also want to use either 300 f2.8 or 200-500 for these eclipse events. The problem is the subject is against a black background so the metering is useless unless you spot meter. Even then the subject exposure can vary during the event.



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Posted by Robert: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 15:35 23rd Post
Thank you Eric, I was on the verge of ringing you for tips on combining the images but I decided to go ahead and see if I could do it myself.

I had taken the moon images at one minute intervals, I had to omit two then include one and so on from each set but when I layered them, for some reason they weren't positioned right, some too close together some too far apart, perhaps the pixies and elves had been playing on my tripod?

In the end I pulled out grid lines for the correctly positioned moons then continued the pattern, then I placed the misbehaving moons in their correct places.



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Posted by Robert: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 15:54 24th Post
jk wrote:
The landscapes look a little blue/cold on my ipad.
I need to look on my MacPro with colour calibrated screen.

It WAS icy cold!!! Very cold, the ground actually did look like that! Bear in mind this was after the eclipse but just before dawn. LOL My screen isn't calibrated so it may be better using the iPad, which I think will probably be as accurate as most alternatives.

ISO3200 should be not too noisy on the D800. I have a D800 also and cant say that it is particularly noisy at that ISO which is normal ISO for my flamenco work.
The moon is bright enough it shouldn't have needed extra boost from higher ISO, ISO800 would have got the job done, moon detail definitely suffered.

I have difficulty with using ISO3200 and above as I also want to use either 300 f2.8 or 200-500 for these eclipse events. The problem is the subject is against a black background so the metering is useless unless you spot meter. Even then the subject exposure can vary during the event.
With these subjects I always review several trial exposures to get into the ball park, add a little experience, check the histogram and pray!

One problem I had was using the D800 in the dark, the layout is quite different from the D3, changing the settings in complete darkness isn't easy, especially with gloves on, I do use a red head torch but even that can wreck a set of images if I'm not careful so I try to do without the torch if I can.

This was taken with the D3 and Nikkor 16mm f/2.8 fisheye... The moon is the large fat trace.

The bright glow is Sellafield Nuclear plant, it always glows!!!

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Posted by jk: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 17:14 25th Post
Just been checking my exposure values after looking at Eric's post.

In fact my eclipse photos were 1 sec through to 1/15th second.
All on tripod.
BTW: Robert my ipad and MacPro screen are fairly equivalent so yes your images look icy!!



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Posted by jk: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 17:19 26th Post
Robert switch on LCD top plate light using the control around the shutter. Push far right! Works on all the top level Nikon DSLRs



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Posted by Robert: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 17:27 27th Post
Just found a selfie! Strong shadow from the super moon.



This is from the D3 and fisheye. Must have been in the last batch, 6:19 am, facing North (ish).

Am surprised the D3 didn't pick up on the ice like the D800 did. The ground was white and rock solid with ice, normally that area is soggy, mind where you stand wet.



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Posted by Robert: Tue Jan 22nd, 2019 17:32 28th Post
jk wrote:
Robert switch on LCD top plate light using the control around the shutter. Push far right! Works on all the top level Nikon DSLRs
I do! (But I frequently turn it the wong way, and turn the camera off!)

The D500 is good with the illuminated buttons.

I will get used to it but I had got used to the D3, which is much easier, due to the buttons not being crammed together.



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Posted by jk: Wed Jan 23rd, 2019 07:40 29th Post
Really like that last image with the D3 +16mm.

I reread your earlier post and realise now that the images were by moonlight! Hence their icy tinge.
It changes my expectation. Sorry, colour is correct/perfect for the conditions.



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Posted by blackfox: Wed Jan 23rd, 2019 11:01 30th Post
did anyone catch the reported meteor strike



Posted by jk: Wed Jan 23rd, 2019 11:11 31st Post
I saw a flash that was what I thought was a shooting star while I was setting up or soon afterwards. Maybe around 4:50am.
What time was the meteor strike?



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Posted by blackfox: Wed Jan 23rd, 2019 12:22 32nd Post
not sure its made the national news though . bright spot on the moons surface



Posted by jk: Wed Jan 23rd, 2019 12:37 33rd Post
No I didnt see a strike on the lunar surface. You would need a good telescope to see that.



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Posted by Robert: Wed Jan 23rd, 2019 17:56 34th Post
Sorry, I have been distracted!!!

It snowed here this morning, I went out to take pics and I have been processing them ever since! I have been ding panoramas of the estuary, the largest was 14 D800 NEF's with about 50% coverage from each exposure, (that is about 50% used from each exposure).

I was aware of the meteor impact, I have located my image closest to the stated time of impact. I have't investigated it on-line except with a contact I have in Alaska, who told me about it. I have one image which could show an impact. it's within about 5 seconds of the stated time I believe, it shows a tiny shoot of something, about 3 pixels from the regular outline of the moon. It could just be a hot pixel, or some noise but it's about 8 O'clock, which is where I understand the impact was.

Hmmm... it's not very distinct here, much more distinct on my monitor, will try to work on it tomorrow, am due to be busy tomorrow so it's a maybe...

I am attaching a screenshot of the Lightroom screen at 400%, if it's readable you should be able to see the settings, magnification and time, the cameras's clock is about 20 seconds fast I think, but it'a very close. I would have thought an event of that sort would last more then a second or two if it's to be visible from earth.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jan 24th, 2019 15:40 35th Post
Robert wrote:
Sorry, I have been distracted!!!

It snowed here this morning, I went out to take pics and I have been processing them ever since! I have been ding panoramas of the estuary, the largest was 14 D800 NEF's with about 50% coverage from each exposure, (that is about 50% used from each exposure).

I was aware of the meteor impact, I have located my image closest to the stated time of impact. I have't investigated it on-line except with a contact I have in Alaska, who told me about it. I have one image which could show an impact. it's within about 5 seconds of the stated time I believe, it shows a tiny shoot of something, about 3 pixels from the regular outline of the moon. It could just be a hot pixel, or some noise but it's about 8 O'clock, which is where I understand the impact was.

Hmmm... it's not very distinct here, much more distinct on my monitor, will try to work on it tomorrow, am due to be busy tomorrow so it's a maybe...

I am attaching a screenshot of the Lightroom screen at 400%, if it's readable you should be able to see the settings, magnification and time, the cameras's clock is about 20 seconds fast I think, but it'a very close. I would have thought an event of that sort would last more then a second or two if it's to be visible from earth.

It's the Chang'e 4 signal relay module



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Posted by Robert: Thu Jan 24th, 2019 15:56 36th Post
Of course, silly me! :lol:

I wonder... what area or the dimensions of the coverage of one pixel (with the D800) is on the moon?

I suspect it will probably be the area of Greater London or similar, possibly more.



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