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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 14:23 |
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Robert
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I bought one new and when I got my D1 it was my only lens because I sold all my other Nikon lenses and gear inc. my beloved Bronica S2a to buy my first serious digital camera, it seemed the way things were moving at the time. It was a while before I could afford the 80-200 f/2.8 to accompany it. In the end I replaced it with an old Nikkor micro 55mm f/2.8 ai which I much prefer.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 15:07 |
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blackfox
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Please expand on that statement Robert , why is a shorter manual focus lens preferable over the 60mm . There seem to be quiet a few around at a good price SELL ME ON ONE
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 15:35 |
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jk
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For macro with static objects (therefore not wildlife) then a wideangle or shorter focal length lens provides greater magnification for less extension. Also never forget that a simple reversed lens makes for a great macro. Just get one of these or similar. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/52mm-Macro-Reverse-Lens-Adapter-Protection-Filter-Ring-Nikon-AI-F-Mount/273623831652?hash=item3fb5405464:g:7YAAAOSwVAtcH~5h https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/52mm-Reverse-Macro-Adapter-For-Nikon-Al-F-Mount-Lens-Protection-Filter-Ring-UK/262872713011?epid=920861202&hash=item3d346f4733:g:KC4AAOSw2gxYwE2H
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 16:07 |
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Robert
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I think the simple early lenses are easier to use because the focal length is constant. The focal length of the 60D varies considerably to enable the lens to be autofocus. I almost never use autofocus with a close up lens because I want to focus exactly where I choose not where the camera chooses. It was handy when I copied about 3500 pages of text to convert to PDF because as I turned the pages it compensated for the gradual change in distance between the camera and the current page in the book which was about 2inches thick. For photographing three dimensional subjects particularly flowers and insects I want full control. The AF generally focusses on the central parts closest to the camera but that can waste half the available depth of focus of the air in front of the flower when I could have been focusing further back into the flower and yet still giving acceptably sharp detail in the front parts. I understand the local length of the 60D reduces to something like 40mm to enable it to get to 1:1 by AF, that isn't what I want. The AF 105D pulls the same trick. With the earlier design, 105 f/4 and 55 f/2.8, the elements all move together in one group as you focus, with the AF-D lenses they move in two or three groups rather like a zoom lens as you focus. My copy of the 60D developed fungus and I was offered a 55, f/2.8 which I snapped up. I sold the lens on eBay and the buyer kicked off because he didn't understand that to get the AE to work you have to lock the aperture ring. The argument went on for some days before he finally realised his mistake. I don't regret parting with the AF-D version, on the contrary I am very happy with the older one with which I have taken some of my best flower pictures, generally moving back and forth (rather than focusing) to get the DoF where I want it for optimal focus. Generally the older, Nikkor micro 55 f/2.8 lenses are reasonably priced because most buyers want AF. Try one and see for yourself.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 16:20 |
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jk
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Is this what you were talking about...... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-55mm-f2-8-Micro-Nikkor-Macro-Prime-Lens/233303570624?hash=item3651f9f8c0:g:23wAAOSw1Glc2d1J This is a nice setup. Shame it is in USA. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIKON-MICRO-NIKKOR-105mm-F-4-Ai-LENS-NIKON-PN-11-EXT-TUBE-1-1-MACRO-MINT/233299113754?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D57923%26meid%3D1f4a24726c7c43d4bf0d468b29798bb2%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D233303570624%26itm%3D233299113754%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 16:23 |
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jk
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This is a very nice lens. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-AIS-105mm-f4-Micro-Nikkor-Lens-Graded-EXC-5690/232328168771?hash=item3617d68543:g:xUoAAOSwMvpb1aAU
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 16:31 |
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Robert
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jk wrote:Is this what you were talking about...... Yes, exactly. The 105 with the PN11 is lovely and not too expensive really, shipping and VAT are the killers from the US. I have thoughts about making my own PN11 using the lathe, the F mount isn't that difficult to make, just needs precision and patience with some custom tooling which is easy enough to make.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 16:38 |
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Robert
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jk wrote:This is a very nice lens. That's the same as mine, superb bokeh, I've had mine three or four years now, it's really good when I need to throw the background out of focus nicely, yet show off a beautiful flower. Can't remember what I paid. I do remember the first time I used it was at the Pitlochry Explorers Garden.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 17:10 |
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blackfox
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I'm away for a few days next week so I won't order anything yet in case I miss the delivery , sort it out when back
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| Posted: Sun Aug 4th, 2019 16:29 |
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blackfox
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few more butterfly shots from today with the 60mm macro could really have done with a longer lens ,but I have a manual focus Tokina 60-300 here that has a half decent macro at the top end I might use tomorrow.   
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