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Posted: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 18:19
 
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Think you are probably correct Robert.
Wood for the trees!

I hadnt noticed the shake on the trees.  Easy to get rid of especially with Eric's Photoshop skills.

Of course it is all about the light, the image, the subject!



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Robert wrote:
Well, perhaps but this is a superb image, in my opinion at least, it's spectacular and finely detailed, while you are complaining about some aspects, my only complaint is the 'camera shake' effect on the large tree in the background.  That I find objectionable, never mind the bird, that's fine, look at the background.  I  assume it's a 'feature' of the PF lens causing this effect, I never seen this with conventional telephoto's, or never noticed it anyway...  I imagine a quick application of a blur brush would fix it.

I think you are all too critical of the minutiae in these images while missing the 'whole picture' occasionally.  My eye is drawn instantly to the apparent camera shake on the tree, which it obviously isn't!

As for enlarging it to A4, I just viewed it full width of my 27" iMac, the bird was 14" long from tail to tip of beak and it still looked superb.  I guess that's twice to three times life size?

Hmmm. That's me told off. :lol:

I take your point....something else for me to bitch about....the branches. 😆 

It seems like a rim lighting effect. o.O  It's there on the nef file so it's obviously not software or processing related. Maybe it is an effect of the fractal lens resolving back lighting when out of focus?  It's reminiscent of colour fringing without the colour.



Ive just spent a bit of time looking back at my garden birds files and came across some that were perfectly alright. No sign of this edge effect.

I then looked at the exif ....and they were taken on the Fuji I sold.  :banghead:

Don't let JK see this post ....I will never hear the last of it. :no:



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Posted: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 03:23
 
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Hmmm. That's me told off. :lol:

I take your point...

I then looked at the exif ....and they were taken on the Fuji I sold.  :banghead:


:lol:  Say no more!!!  :lol:



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Has this bit of noise reduction in Photoshop raw filter correction?



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Eric wrote:
Hmmm. That's me told off. :lol:

I take your point....something else for me to bitch about....the branches. 😆 

It seems like a rim lighting effect. o.O  It's there on the nef file so it's obviously not software or processing related. Maybe it is an effect of the fractal lens resolving back lighting when out of focus?  It's reminiscent of colour fringing without the colour.



Ive just spent a bit of time looking back at my garden birds files and came across some that were perfectly alright. No sign of this edge effect.

I then looked at the exif ....and they were taken on the Fuji I sold.  :banghead:

Don't let JK see this post ....I will never hear the last of it. :no:

Haha I saw it!  :lol::needsahug:
I can sell you a nice XT2 if you like but I actually suggest that you get an XT4 when it arrives as that also has IBIS (no not the bird, but In Body Image Stabilisation) but it is more expensive than the XT3 but it also has a bigger battery.
Bad luck I am no1 on the list to get one from Wex/FixationUK when it arrives in April/May.

I have to say that IBIS like that found in the Nikon Z7/Z6 and Fuji XH1 is a wonderful find.  So much better than the VR offered by Nikon on F mount lenses.  I am wondering if the new S mount lenses are more about the IBIS in the camera than the ability to make better lenses if they have a wider lens/camera body throat.



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ah well I'm still plodding on with my olympus gear . as older age and my dodgy ticker are definetly limiting my carrying capabilities but still getting the shots heres a few from yesterday 



 




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Lovely lighting and exposure there Jeff. Well done.



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I haven't been able to get out and about much lately (wife under the weather) so I've been playing with the D850 and garden birds.

Nothing to write home about, just a blackbird in poor lighting. So poor this was at ISO 25,600...and yes I did do some noise reduction on the background but the bird is untouched. I suppose the noise is hidden better on a black bird?





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I think we need to be aware and not overly critical of high ISO images.

Eric's blackbird is effectively taken at 5 stops above anything possible by film in times gone by!
Sometimes we forget where we have come from.
I remember push processing Ektachrome 400 to 1600 ISO (+two stops) and the results were muddy golfball grain and mushy images that were dull and almost colourless.



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Yes JK. How far IQ has progressed in 25 years. 1995 I purchased my Nikon Coolscan for £2000. Before that the Kodak 35mm scanner was £22,000. Five year latter the Di. I too remember the golfball sized grains regularly pushing Fujichrome to 1600 for sport.



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