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Eric that Blackbird is amazing I have never pushed ISO like that. Good to see your interesting images Jeff thanks for sharing them with us.



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Eric that Blackbird is amazing I have never pushed ISO like that. Good to see your interesting images Jeff thanks for sharing them with us.
If you zoom in on the branch around it's claws you can see how noisy the whole image was before I de noised the background. I haven't done any noise reduction on the bird or it's perch. I did remove one or two hot pixels (chromatic dots) that were visible on the black bird but left the rest of the bird unmolested.

I get the impression that the appearance of intrusive noise seems to occur above ISO 3000 on the D850. But the incremental amount of noise doesn't seem to be 8x the problem at 25000.

Think I've mentioned this before; the ISO level for obvious noise appearance hasn't changed much from the old days...eg iso1600. It would have been nice to have noise free images up at iso5000, (comparable to the old iso 400) on newer cameras, but it seems as though all the noise control improvement has gone at the higher levels and the middle ground (eg iso2000-6000) less so.



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I've reworked the goldfinch image to (hopefully) make the background less objectionable to young Plowden. :devil:


Also, livened up the image contrast and sharpness. It's still not as punchy as Mr Whistlers version of the image. Maybe that's a limitation in the sharpening algorithm of Affinity Photo compared to Photoshop?




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I think the Photoshop version has opened up the shadows a bit and the USM has improver sharpness quite well wjt out looking over processed.



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Eric wrote:
I've reworked the goldfinch image to (hopefully) make the background less objectionable to young Plowden. :devil:

:lol: I was feeling pretty weary 'til I read that, thank you kind sir!  I just spent the day on the lathe making a special tool to use in the reassembly of a Land Rover gearbox.

Much better, thanks.  There was nothing wrong with the bird, superb in my opinion.

For those who use current versions of Photoshop and Lightroom the detail enhancement tools are getting better and better, I seem to remember reading somewhere that they are using artificial intelligence to find and enhance fine detail.  I find it very effective, not that I am taking many photo's at the moment.



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:lol: I was feeling pretty weary 'til I read that, thank you kind sir!  I just spent the day on the lathe making a special tool to use in the reassembly of a Land Rover gearbox.

Much better, thanks.  There was nothing wrong with the bird, superb in my opinion.

For those who use current versions of Photoshop and Lightroom the detail enhancement tools are getting better and better, I seem to remember reading somewhere that they are using artificial intelligence to find and enhance fine detail.  I find it very effective, not that I am taking many photo's at the moment.

That makes me feel really redundant.:needsahug:



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That makes me feel really redundant.:needsahug:
Awwww, didn't mean to make you feel redundant, I think it's supposed to bring us up to your level?

Chips are becoming so small and powerful I expect much more processing will take place in the camera in the future.



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The Fujis now have that feature in camera using X RAW Studio.  When linked to a computer a RAW file can be converted in camera and sent to computer as a jpg in any of the simulations e.g. Velvia, Acros, Provia, Classic Chrome, etc.

https://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/x_raw_studio/mac/

"Overview

"FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO" is new RAW conversion software completely different from conventional RAW conversion software.
Once connecting a digital camera to a computer, "FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO" allows users to:
Convert RAW files in a short time just almost same duration as a camera takes a photo. And it does not depend on the performance of your computer as the FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO system utilizes the image processor in the camera instead of the CPU in the computer.
Get an image with retained exceptional image quality (tonality, color reproduction, noise reduction, and so on of the camera)."



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Here is a dull light 2500 ISO  1/250 sec f8 VR  D850 with 500mm PF Lens plus x1.4 so lens wide open.



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Yes this IS a wild free Starling. D850 with 500 PF  1/400 sec f10 ISO 1600



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