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| Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2021 16:03 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:Eric that is spot on quality! That was using the bird eye focusing feature.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2021 16:30 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:I'm waiting to see some bird in flight pics from you Sony users to see how it handles it. I am afraid there isn't a lot of variety in flying birds over the garden it's mainly gulls..  Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image. The Sony tracking system is very good and follows the bird all round the screen, holding lock. I haven't had a lot of opportunity to try other birds but I am not sure I have the right mode on the stabilisation system for chasing a fast bird around the blue yonder because images of fast flying birds (I was chasing Swift's around 2 days ago and nearly pulled my neck muscles ) havent come out too sharp. Kites and Buzzards are starting to venture over the garden but I generally only get one chance as they don't hang about. I need to get up the coast to tackle sea birds.but I am not going there while the world and his wife (and kids) are thrashing about in the reserves. I also think the 200-600 lens I have is too long and heavy for bif. Graham has the 100-400 and it's 2/3 of the size and weight. I may have to treat myself. Changing to mirrorless is not without its frustrations. I am however learning to adapt to its idiosyncrasies more and have configured several of the custom buttons around the body and lens to speed up the way I shoot, access menus and review captured images. For example the AE hold button under the right thumb of most cameras I never use so I have assigned it to playback the last image in the viewfinder. ( I don't use the rear screen anymore as it wastes power and the viewfinder is so good you get a better, clearer assessment than struggling with the rear screen in sun! I don't believe the performance on moving subjects is any worse than the d850 and d500.it's probably much better, but getting the right settings to optimise quality and performance takes time and I don't feel I have achieved that yet, merely testing in the garden.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 06:08 |
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Graham Whistler
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I would agree with all Eric has said there. I have had a very busy 4 weeks with major work being done in the house and garden with little time to rake photos. I did flying tests with the high 200-600mm and results were good, but lens is a bit large. I also now have the very good Sony 100-400 and that should make life a bit better for and 80 yr old to handle for fast-flying action. Hope to report more later but this A1 is a super camera with a lot of new things to learn to get the best out of it.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 11:19 |
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jk
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I think Eric's seagulls are nice and sharp but they are fairly large birds. A dunnock, kingfisher or sandpiper are the best test targets that can prove how good the Sony is.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 13:12 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I think Eric's seagulls are nice and sharp butthey are fairly large birds. A kingfisher or sandpiper are the best test targets that prove how good the Sony is. Unless you have a good vantage point, near a place where the bird returns predictably, you will struggle getting any good bif shots of a small bird, no matter what camera you are using. Small birds are, due to their need to avoid predators, unpredictable in flight behaviour. Even approaching garden feeders they take different routes that mean you are hard pressed to see them soon enough to lock onto them in the first instance. l start from the stance that Sony seem no worse than the D500 and better than the D850 at tracking bird movement. Focus is quicker with the Sony but it remains to be seen whether with practise and familiarity it has overall superiority. Like I said, I need to get to a location with a melee of flying birds, to progress. Right now that's not possible as my car is spending its third week in the dealership garage while they do the 'warranty sidestep'. That's when they change the oil, stroke the bearings and plead with the transfer box to get better, rather than coughing up and replacing the whole unit. 🤬
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19th, 2021 12:14 |
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Iain
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Eric's gulls look as good as my BIF shots.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19th, 2021 14:34 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:Eric's gulls look as good as my BIF shots. Iain, in your experience, how small a bird have you managed to capture in flight? The smallest I have managed is a Jackdaw. I am guessing a Kingfisher would be quite small, but you still need to know where it's nesting or it's fishing post, as they fly like bullets.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22nd, 2021 15:44 |
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Iain
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Eric wrote:Iain, in your experience, how small a bird have you managed to capture in flight? The smallest I have managed is a Jackdaw. I've got pics of A few different tits and a chiffchaff in flight most of them by catching them coming off a branch. I also have Kingfisher in flight, diving and coming out of the water. Some of its timing and some luck.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23rd, 2021 07:10 |
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jk
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Iain wrote:I've got pics of A few different tits and a chiffchaff in flight most of them by catching them coming off a branch. This is exactly the test point that we need to use. There is no point trying to test the AF at a point where we know it will work with other cameras. We need to find a point/animal/bird where a Nikon will struggle and the Sony sails through. I know there is a a lot of internet babble about the superior AF performance of the Sony over other cameras. I am sure that it works better for portrait eye, and animal eye AF focus. If there is a genuine difference then how much better is it. The quantification or measurement of this difference is useful.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23rd, 2021 14:11 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:This is exactly the test point that we need to use. Well it's interesting of course, but if you are not in the market for a Sony it's largely irrelevant. As you have said, this week Sony maybe top dog next week it could be Canon, Nikon or someone else. Development is a moveable feast with everyone leapfrogging. I think it will be hard to compare Nikon and Sony functionality on a given subject when we haven't got both cameras at our disposal.
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