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| Posted: Sat Feb 13th, 2021 16:36 |
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jk
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Good to see that you are back posting Robert. Hope that you are feeling stronger and more recovered.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 05:41 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Thats all white then! Buzzards often perch on fence posts alongside main roads. Because they are brown you tend to miss them, thinking they were extra long posts. 😆 Travelling down the motorways in France they are everywhere. We refer to them as “awks on steeksâ€. (French accent required) Driving to Alsace in 2018 we counted 83 such 'awks' plus 7 eagles...it was in fairness a drive of several hours and of course towing a caravan the speed is sloooower.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2021 16:39 |
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Eric
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Didnt get the Buzzards yesterday. Did get a rook landing on the tree near the house and a song thrush came down to grab some of the food that had been scattered on the snow...before it melted.   Click here to comment on this image. Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 04:00 |
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blackfox
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having changed my style of p/p slightly with some excellent response on flickr etc I have been re-visiting old files .. heres 2 Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image. recently done ones from when I had the d7200
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 10:19 |
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Graham Whistler
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Very good!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 11:01 |
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jk
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Great pair of images Jeff. It is very nice seeing the final images but I cant assess what they started from! That is the other skilled part of the equation. From a professional perspective ......... First you need to capture the image Then you need to process the image. Then ultimately you need to sell the image.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 11:32 |
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Eric
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I have always admired Jeff's skill as a wildlife photographer, his use of light, field craft and mastery of whatever equipment he uses. (Puts my half hearted efforts to shame) But I have to say that whilst differential focus between subject and background always lifts the subject from its surroundings , I am not a fan of totally blurred surroundings in wildlife photos. For me, part of the pleasure is seeing the habitat. Having completely blurred surroundings may make the subject stand out more but it takes a well executed natural looking shot and moves it too close to an illustration....what a friend refers to as a 'bird stamp'. I know all our taste differ, but I prefer more interaction between the subject and it's habitat.  Great captures though 
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 11:49 |
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jk
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I dont mind the ultra defocussed background but it doesnt work for every subject. I use the technique in some portraits but it is a bit like the Orton effect in landscapes. If you do it in/on every image it becomes a very artificial image as you say. I like to see the background in cthe context. The owl image looks very much like an Eric Hoskings image but I dont know if he did that on his images or whether they are just naturally like that. The swallow shot is great timing and very sharp but as you say it would be nice to see a bit more background or surrounding detail. He is on a skim over the wall, but where did he come from? I just wish I had the patience and fieldcraft that Jeff has to capture these images.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 12:31 |
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jk
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I guess it begs the question. Which is better? or  Click here to comment on this image. Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2021 14:49 |
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Eric
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For me the problem with just blurring the background is twofold .... A constant degree of blur assumes everything in the background is the same distance behind the subject....like a studio portrait background. That's fine if that's what you are trying to achieve....a portrait of a critter. I just don't find flying birds... 'studio subjects'. In a natural setting, a portrait benefits from sharing some of the surroundings in the composition, ideally then with a more natural progressive zone of sharpness/defocus behind. I like to see some habitat with the creature. No it's not an excuse for not getting close enough. The other issue is, just blurring the background without reframing unbalances the image. There is too much blurred background which distracts from the subject. In your hummingbird moth image there is far too much out of focus to the left. (I realise it's been done just to make a point). It needs tighter cropping ...which then turns it back into a tight studio portrait.  Click here to comment on this image. That still works ok in this case because you have the plant as part of the composition. With flying birds there is unlikely to have anything to balance the composition. Hope that makes sense? Incidentally, somewhere on my desktop I have a PS Action that sequentially layers focus progressively back in stages giving increasing levels of defocus away from a subject to give quite a natural depth of field effect. I created it after messing up a shoot with the wrong aperture.
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