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Posted by jk: Wed Jan 2nd, 2019 15:28 1st Post
OK I know that the new Z series of cameras is new and they are mirrorless not DSLRs.

So I am thinking that should we try to find another domain name such as Nikon-cameras.com or AllNikon.com or something else.

I am open to staying as we are or going for a new domain name with a transition probably with new forum software.

What are your thoughts on this?



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Posted by Robert: Wed Jan 2nd, 2019 15:53 2nd Post
Well in my view Z's are DSLR... Nothing about a mirror in DSLR? The Z's are digital, single lens and reflex. o.O

But I agree another name might be worth considering, frankly I don't think the name is that important, generally Google searches find the 'query' text in posts or threads, not the site name.

Most forums I find are as a result of a Google search on a specialised subject, some sites keep coming up, eventually if I have a sustained interest in a specialised subject I may join the forum which I find most helpful and well mannered.

As for the forum software I am sure there has to be something better than this.

I'm not totally convinced that the gallery serves a useful purpose any more.

I think some image thread categories and post images in threads could be better. Especially with the complexities of linking the forum with a separate gallery.

We could have a section with dedicated threads which could be themes for images predominantly, but allowing comments in following posts. Like Cars, railroad, clouds, architecture, trees, pets etc. etc. the list is endless. They could be preset and user created. That would make things simpler and easier to maintain. I think that can be a very successful format, in fact Grahams 'Bird' thread is a perfect example. One of the longest, best threads in history! It certainly draws a LOT of interest.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Jan 2nd, 2019 16:12 3rd Post
Robert wrote:
Well in my view Z's are DSLR... Nothing about a mirror in DSLR? The Z's are digital, single lens and reflex. o.O

But I agree another name might be worth considering, frankly I don't think the name is that important, generally Google searches find the 'query' text in posts or threads, not the site name.

Most forums I find are as a result of a Google search on a specialised subject, some sites keep coming up, eventually if I have a sustained interest in a specialised subject I may join the forum which I find most helpful and well mannered.

As for the forum software I am sure there has to be something better than this.

I'm not totally convinced that the gallery serves a useful purpose any more.

I think some image thread categories and post images in threads could be better. Especially with the complexities of linking the forum with a separate gallery.

We could have a section with dedicated threads which could be themes for images predominantly, but allowing comments in following posts. Like Cars, railroad, clouds, architecture, trees, pets etc. etc. the list is endless. They could be preset and user created. That would make things simpler and easier to maintain. I think that can be a very successful format, in fact Grahams 'Bird' thread is a perfect example. One of the longest, best threads in history! It certainly draws a LOT of interest.

I always thought 'reflex' referred to the process of diverting the view via a prism and a mirror?

I personally think the current forum name IS potentially restrictive. There are loads of people using bridge, csc, mirrorless etc that might be put off or misled by the Digital SLR header.
o.O

I also think the gallery is unnecessary. We tend to post images that apertain to a subject in the relevant threads. We could have a section for 'critique' but I believe most people come to the forum to gain knowledge on equipment and techniques rather than get opinion on their artistry.

Besides, having images in the threads stops them becoming too dry a read.

o.O



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Posted by Robert: Wed Jan 2nd, 2019 16:47 4th Post
Technology's moved on, it's an electronic mirror! LOL

Doesn't a Z have a pentaprism, with the screen below?

You don't have to have two mirrors (reflectors), the waist level finders were still SLR's, anyway I don't think it's an issue, just me being pedantic!

Submarines don't have periscopes any more, they release a buoy on a tether with a camera onboard, a bit similar.

We seem to be mainly Nikon with occasional excursions to other makes, predominantly stills, what about something like 'Nikon Photography Forum'? We need to steer clear of Birna's 'Nikon Gear', Dallas has 'PhotoZones'. No doubt there are others to avoid.

But I still feel most visitors are drawn by Google searches which are unrelated to the forum title. Yes, the forum name matters but not for attracting visitors in the first place.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Jan 2nd, 2019 17:03 5th Post
Robert wrote:
Technology's moved on, it's an electronic mirror! LOL

Doesn't a Z have a pentaprism, with the screen below?

You don't have to have two mirrors (reflectors), the waist level finders were still SLR's, anyway I don't think it's an issue, just me being pedantic!

Submarines don't have periscopes any more, they release a buoy on a tether with a camera onboard, a bit similar.

We seem to be mainly Nikon with occasional excursions to other makes, predominantly stills, what about something like 'Nikon Photography Forum'? We need to steer clear of Birna's 'Nikon Gear', Dallas has 'PhotoZones'. No doubt there are others to avoid.

But I still feel most visitors are drawn by Google searches which are unrelated to the forum title. Yes, the forum name matters but not for attracting visitors in the first place.

You raise an interesting point re search engines.

If you put Nikon DSLR Forums in google ...THIS FORUM COMES UP FIRST. If you omit the DSLR ...WE DONT SHOW.

Assuming our main thrust is for Nikon users maybe we SHOULD try and get Nikon-Z.net and point it at this site? Yes we should redo the headers and if you are really serious about changing forum software ...go for it.



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Posted by Gilbert Sandberg: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 10:18 6th Post
JK,
I agree with Robert: no need to worry about any name-change.
IMHO the term DSLR also covers mirrorless, especially since they can use many Nikon F-mount lenses.
Regards and best wishes, Gilbert



Posted by jk: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 12:57 7th Post
Thanks for your input Gilbert, Robert, Eric.

Other members can still comment. ;-)
Always interested in how people think we need to change with the times.



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Posted by blackfox: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 15:27 8th Post
I'm with Robert on this , I was a bit cautious a few weeks ago posting my Panasonic images for a comparison , but what brought me back here was a return to Nikon ,but I also have other cameras and not all my lenses are Nikon either .so how about NIKON MAINLY FORUM , but allowing for other brands . The various themed sections work well elsewhere to i.e motorsports ,wildlife, birds ,landscapes etc .
A gallery in the day and age of Facebook and Instagram is in my view outmoded . As always he who pays the piper calls the tune



Posted by jk: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 15:43 9th Post
Jeff, we have aways allowed other makes of camera images to be posted, see the Other Makes of Camera sub-forum, but our preference is for things Nikon.
I have a full Fuji X series set of cameras and lenses which I prefer for travel photography.



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Posted by Robert: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 16:23 10th Post
I don't have a strong feeling on the name, like I say most visitors will never have heard of Nikon DSLR.net, we are only a small group, they put in a search query, about some issue they have or just want to find a nice quiet forum where they can discuss photography. So they search in general terms, occasionally they find us. I don't believe any visitors actually enter our URL unless someone has recommended the forum to them and passed on the URL.

Some stay, some are looking for something different.

Technically it seems there is no pentaprism in the viewfinder so no reflection takes place but I still regard the Z's as DSLR's because you are composing the image through the viewfinder or screen through the actual taking lens, rather than a separate viewfinder and AF and AE are also through the taking lens.

I do think we should actively support and encourage the Z's they ARE the future. Just like digital took over from film, mirrorless will carry forward as it evolves, we will see fewer new mirrored bodies being released over time.

The big question is, what will come out of the hat next?



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Posted by jk: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 17:28 11th Post
I personally dont care what make of camera is used as I am more interested on the end result and how it was achieved.

I would be less happy to use a Canon only because I dont like the twiddly dial on the back that seems to be counter ontuitive for me. The bodies and lenses are fine. Top end 1DXmk3? is a heavy beast because of the battery but is really full featured.

Fuji stuff is more to my taste as lenses are fantastic and cameras are well designed for me. The XT2 and XT3 and the XH1 are better for ergonomics than the Nikons. That is a real accolade from me. However overall I am happy with my Nikon stuff.


Havent heard Graham's thoughts on this but I think that for simplicity the name (url) remains the same.

Next thing to consider is new software! That is a much larger problem to tackle.



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Posted by Robert: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 18:01 12th Post
On the whole I feel we have had good uptime with the host server, I know of some forums have been down for many hours, days sometimes.

Is there a newer incarnation of this software which would likely be easier to migrate to. I know the previous forum software was unfriendly in that regard but things have moved on.

We specifically need multiple images per post and a strikethrough facility in the text editor.

Dump the gallery, too may complications and in my view the same end can be achieved by posting images in themed threads.

I also think themed threads are stimulating because it encourages us to get out and create images for a theme, rather than just the same old thing. Insects, birds, leaves, water, the list is endless

Perhaps a wish list of features then try to find a forum software which fulfils the wishes?

Some features are admin only of course, some forums are easier to administer than others.



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Posted by blackfox: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 18:15 13th Post
Jonathon your brilliant ,that's the name to go with

NIKON STUFF



Posted by Robert: Fri Jan 4th, 2019 18:22 14th Post
ZTUFF?



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