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Posted by Draggar: Mon Dec 26th, 2016 21:48 1st Post
Hello everyone, new person here (if the post count (if visible) didn't make it obvious. :D

I am looking to get another lens (mainly for night shooting - astrophotography (stars), maybe some moon shots (yes, I know it would need a completely different F stop range). Might also be nice for some daytime landscape photos (but my two lenses (mentioned below) do a good job with that).

I have a feeling that I might have to get two or three lenses for that (thank god I have a good bag).

Not sure if I'd want a zoom or fixed lens - fixed I would say probably somewhere lower range (25-80mm, or would something higher like 180-200mm be better (fixed zoom)? If it's not fixed in then in the same range, maybe even higher (over 300mm).

Right now I have my two kit lenses that came with my Nikon D5500 -
AF-S 18-55mm, f:3.5-5.6 GII
AF-S 55-300mm, f:4.5-5.6 GED

Autofocus is a must (yeah, that will add to the price) and vibration reduction (VR) is a plus, but I do a lot of tripod shooting w/ a wired remote.

o52 or o58 mm diameter would be great so I don't need to buy new filters (but again, not required, the ones I'd need are pretty cheap).

I'm looking for something around the $300 range but if there is something great under $600 I can maybe search around for a used lens.



Posted by Robert: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 04:48 2nd Post
One suggestion for landscapes and artistic wides is the Sigma 10-20mm which for a DX camera is almost essential, although I found that 11 or 12mm was the widest I wanted to go in most cases, else you get strange effect and funny skies.

DEFINITELY not for portraits! Unless you want a bonk on the nose... This was the least worst picture of my racing driver buddy Sid (He still hasn't seen it!) Taken from less than a foot from his nose, pretty close anyway.

Sid at Three Sisters circuit 2011 D200, Sigma 10-20mm @ 10mm



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Posted by jk: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 05:11 3rd Post
I think a Samyang 12mm would be best for astrophotography.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 05:38 4th Post
Draggar wrote:
Hello everyone, new person here (if the post count (if visible) didn't make it obvious. :D

I am looking to get another lens (mainly for night shooting - astrophotography (stars), maybe some moon shots (yes, I know it would need a completely different F stop range). Might also be nice for some daytime landscape photos (but my two lenses (mentioned below) do a good job with that).

I have a feeling that I might have to get two or three lenses for that (thank god I have a good bag).

Not sure if I'd want a zoom or fixed lens - fixed I would say probably somewhere lower range (25-80mm, or would something higher like 180-200mm be better (fixed zoom)? If it's not fixed in then in the same range, maybe even higher (over 300mm).

Right now I have my two kit lenses that came with my Nikon D5500 -
AF-S 18-55mm, f:3.5-5.6 GII
AF-S 55-300mm, f:4.5-5.6 GED

Autofocus is a must (yeah, that will add to the price) and vibration reduction (VR) is a plus, but I do a lot of tripod shooting w/ a wired remote.

o52 or o58 mm diameter would be great so I don't need to buy new filters (but again, not required, the ones I'd need are pretty cheap).

I'm looking for something around the $300 range but if there is something great under $600 I can maybe search around for a used lens.

Hi welcome to the forum.
With the two lense you have I would suggest you have a good focal length range for general use and you don't need to change or supplement them UNLESS/UNTIL you discover a shortcoming.

A short coming may be extreme wide angle...in which case the 10-20 Robert mentioned is a good addition. Although, two steps backwards increases your angle of view by about 5mm! So if you have space to move back... you may not NEED anything in the range 13-17mm.

Other shortcomings may be the perceived quality of these consumer zooms and their limited maximum apertures. The only answer here is to go upmarket. Go for fast primes...but you pay in $$ and deadweight for wide apertures and large glass. So you need to be very certain the choice is right for your need ....before you end up with an expensive ornament.

Which leads me to Astro photography....something I know NOTHING ABOUT! Ive taken some shots of the moon on 300mm but never ventured farther into the sky. There was one guy on the forum sometime back that specialised in this but he hasn't posted for a while.

No disrespect to my other forum colleagues*, as I know some dabble, but I would have thought asking a which lens question on an Astro web forum would be more fruitful.

*Footnote: Apologies guys if your knowledge on this subject is greater than I am aware.

EDIT.... I see Robert has answered this question on your other thread. Well done Mr Plowden.

:bowing:


My only recent moonshot....



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Posted by Draggar: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 12:28 5th Post
The lens suggestions are out of my price range but I can look up used lenses, I do have those resources available to me, even getting them locally (pawn shops, local "yard sale" Facebook groups etc.).

Great photo of the lunar eclipse!



Posted by jk: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 12:52 6th Post
Was that taken on the night of 22nd June?
There must be some weird planetary alignment that caused the vote on 23rd June to be what it was!
:lol:



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Posted by Robert: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 12:57 7th Post
jk wrote:
Was that taken on the night of 22nd June?
There must be some weird planetary alignment that caused the vote on 23rd June to be what it was!
:lol:

Thank the stars? :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 16:45 8th Post
Robert wrote:
jk wrote:
Was that taken on the night of 22nd June?
There must be some weird planetary alignment that caused the vote on 23rd June to be what it was!
:lol:

Thank the stars? :lol:

Or blame the stars.

;-)

I see the Mayor of Beaucaire (SFrance) has named a new street..Rue de Brexit. It's in honour of brave nationalist action. (his words)



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Posted by jk: Tue Dec 27th, 2016 17:21 9th Post
Eric wrote:
Robert wrote:
jk wrote:
Was that taken on the night of 22nd June?
There must be some weird planetary alignment that caused the vote on 23rd June to be what it was!
:lol:

Thank the stars? :lol:

Or blame the stars.

;-)

I see the Mayor of Beaucaire (SFrance) has named a new street..Rue de Brexit. It's in honour of brave nationalist action. (his words)

Yes I saw that.
It will be ironic if in June there was Frexit!
Up yours Delours! If you remember that far back.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 05:52 10th Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
Robert wrote:
jk wrote:
Was that taken on the night of 22nd June?
There must be some weird planetary alignment that caused the vote on 23rd June to be what it was!
:lol:

Thank the stars? :lol:

Or blame the stars.

;-)

I see the Mayor of Beaucaire (SFrance) has named a new street..Rue de Brexit. It's in honour of brave nationalist action. (his words)

Yes I saw that.
It will be ironic if in June there was Frexit!
Up yours Delours! If you remember that far back.

I am sure some some Brits would applaud that with a similar naming of Frexit Street.

:doh:



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Posted by Draggar: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 09:01 11th Post
Sorry, I had to. :lol:

I only know what my media has spoon fed me with Brexit but we've had our own shares of snafu's. :-)o.O:-)

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Posted by Robert: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 09:36 12th Post
If you stick around here you will get used to threads wandering, we prefer it to threads being locked off because someone has mentioned something off topic, as happened to me recently in another forum and I'm still jarred off.

No disrespect intended, it's just the way we are!



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Posted by Draggar: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 09:47 13th Post
None taken. I just found it humorous.



Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 12:49 14th Post
Draggar wrote:
None taken. I just found it humorous.
I am afraid some of us oldies have been hanging around this forum since shortly after Moses parted the Red Sea. After 2 or 3 posts we can easily forget what the thread was about...heck, I forget what my wife is called sometimes. Just do what you did, and call us to order. I blame Jonathan...he always leads us astray.

:lol:



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Posted by jk: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 14:46 15th Post
Draggar wrote:
Sorry, I had to. :lol:

I only know what my media has spoon fed me with Brexit but we've had our own shares of snafu's. :-)o.O:-)

I think that is a movement to the far right which many of us fear and dread as there are many who have left the straight and narrow!
:devil:
:lol::lol::lol:



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Posted by jk: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 14:47 16th Post
Draggar if you want to drag us back then use the emoticon.

:offtopic2:



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Posted by Robert: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 15:17 17th Post
I rather liked the road sign...

Certainly not going to miss it! LOL



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Posted by Draggar: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 15:34 18th Post
jk wrote:
Draggar if you want to drag us back then use the emoticon.

:offtopic2:

Mine is better. :-)


Robert wrote:
I rather liked the road sign...

Certainly not going to miss it! LOL

Feel free to steal it.



Posted by jk: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 16:22 19th Post
Which every works best for you.



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Posted by Robert: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 16:36 20th Post
Draggar wrote:
jk wrote:
Draggar if you want to drag us back then use the emoticon.

:offtopic2:

Mine is better. :-)


Robert wrote:
I rather liked the road sign...

Certainly not going to miss it! LOL

Feel free to steal it.

I know where it is if I need it, thanks!

(Tomorrow I will have forgotten!)



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Posted by Draggar: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 17:16 21st Post
Eh, this thread is also as hijacked as my plans with the gift cards - I've been thinking of getting a nice Kitchen Aid mixer, too (I have plenty of attachments - yeah, I got the attachments in the divorce but not the mixer?).



Posted by Robert: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 18:12 22nd Post
Highly recommend a dishwasher too, though I guess you will have one of them?

:bowing:



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Posted by Draggar: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 18:20 23rd Post
Robert wrote:
Highly recommend a dishwasher too, though I guess you will have one of them?

:bowing:

Yeah, me. :-)

(But seriously, yes, my GF has a nice automatic one).



Posted by Eric: Thu Dec 29th, 2016 15:25 24th Post
If I could drag us all back to the first post for a moment.... have you actually tried your current lenses for shooting the moon at night?

The reason I say that is my moon shot was shot at f5.6....because that was the max aperture of the lens I used. So you may be surprised what your current lenses can do ....with high ISO and shutter speed.

Bear in mind the moon is actually lit by sunlight, so has similar exposures to a sunny day on earth!



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Posted by Draggar: Thu Dec 29th, 2016 16:16 25th Post
Yes I have and the pictures aren't bad - but I'm also looking for pictures of stars etc. (and eventually through a telescope).

One thing I did notice - whenever I use my telephoto adapter the pictures are always out of focus - auto or manual focus.



Posted by Eric: Thu Dec 29th, 2016 17:02 26th Post
Draggar wrote:
Yes I have and the pictures aren't bad - but I'm also looking for pictures of stars etc. (and eventually through a telescope).

One thing I did notice - whenever I use my telephoto adapter the pictures are always out of focus - auto or manual focus.

If by 'adapter' you mean a teleconverter and you are using it on your zoom lens ...you are likely to amplify minor imperfections. I found even my 80-200f2.8 was soft when adding a TC. Teleconverter really only should be used with prime lenses imho.

If you look back at the eclipse combination photo I posted, you will see the eclipsed moon is unsharp compared to the full moon. Same lens mounted on tripod same aperture...the only difference was the slower shutter speed I neede to use ...due to the lower light during eclipse. Subject movement and probably a bit of mirror slap, as I forgot to use mirror up setting. :doh:



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