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Posted by novicius: Sat May 9th, 2020 04:10 1st Post
Am I reading those specs. correctly...or do I need new spectacles...

Z Noct

Approx. Dimensions (Diameter x Length)

4.01 in. (102 mm)  x  6.02 in. (153 mm)


Approx. Weight

70.6 oz. (2,000 g)


Two Kilograms..??..for a Standard Lens...

Pricey too...( 8000 ) Eight Thousand USd.

Mebbe Nikon should have studied this one...

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LEITZ Noctilux

Focal Length 50mm
Focus Type Manual Focus
Filter Size 60 mm (Front)
Dimensions (¸ x L) 2.9 x 3" / 73 x 75.1 mm
Weight 1.5 lb / 700 g


Seven Hundred grams...( O.7 Kilograms ) 

Granted...it does go for more than 12000,- USd.

So, which is Your choice..



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Posted by GeoffR: Sat May 9th, 2020 04:44 2nd Post
novicius wrote:
Am I reading those specs. correctly...or do I need new spectacles...

Z Noct
Approx. Dimensions (Diameter x Length)
4.01 in. (102 mm)  x  6.02 in. (153 mm)
Approx. Weight
70.6 oz. (2,000 g)


Two Kilograms..??..for a Standard Lens...

Pricey too...( 8000 ) Eight Thousand USD.

Mebbe Nikon should have studied this one...

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LEITZ Noctilux

Focal Length 50mm
Focus Type Manual Focus
Filter Size 60 mm (Front)
Dimensions (¸ x L) 2.9 x 3" / 73 x 75.1 mm
Weight 1.5 lb / 700 g


Seven Hundred grams...( O.7 Kilograms ) 

Granted...it does go for more than 12000,- USD.

So, which is Your choice..
My choice is neither.
I have a Nikon AF-D 50 f1.4 that I haven't used in many years, with digital cameras and the ability to use higher ISO as required I find less need for really fast lenses and travelling with cameras makes simplicity more important.

The Nikon 24-70 f2.8 is only 900g and the 70-200 is around 1,300g so the pair weigh in at only 200g more than the Z Noct. For my purposes the latter is completely over the top in both weight and price.

Both the Nikon Z Noct and the Leica Noctilux are specialist lenses and, I am sure, excellent performers in their field but I don't need them. Neither does my bank balance!



Posted by jk: Sat May 9th, 2020 05:09 3rd Post
@Novicius I see you are in Malaysia and limited to your balcony....... the 2kg weight should be no problem with short distance carrying but the wallet lightening $8k USD might cause the eyes to water!

I would choose neither but use a 50mm f1.4 AFS and boost ISO by two stops, or the 50mm f1.2 MF and boost by one stop.



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Posted by chrishamer: Thu May 14th, 2020 06:23 4th Post
Honestly I think it's just a halo lens, on par with the $700 Mac Pro wheels apple sells. They'll sell a few, but it's mostly there to get people talking.

I'm more interested in the 50mm 1.2S The 50mm 1.8S is absolutely sublime, so will have to seriously consider if I need the 1.2S given I mostly shoot the 1.8S at F4 or above.



Posted by rmoser: Thu May 14th, 2020 13:11 5th Post
My old manual focus Nikon f1.2 50mm weighs 400gm, so only mildly outrageous. But back in those days they made them out of real metal, so that adds to the weight.

Rob



Posted by jk: Thu May 14th, 2020 15:18 6th Post
My Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS ED II  weighs in at 6.5kg!
o.O
Anyone for weight lifting.
Add the tripod and the Wimberley mount!



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 15th, 2020 06:13 7th Post
jk wrote:
My Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS ED II  weighs in at 6.5kg!
o.O
Anyone for weight lifting.
Add the tripod and the Wimberley mount!
And a camera, and a TC. o.O  More weight (mass) the better, makes for less vibration.  :thumbs:  Mass is good, vibration is bad.



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Posted by Eric: Fri May 15th, 2020 07:09 8th Post
Robert wrote:
And a camera, and a TC. o.O  More weight (mass) the better, makes for less vibration.  :thumbs:  Mass is good, vibration is bad. Leaving it in the cupboard is worse....which is what would happen if I was being asked to lug 10kg of gear around with me.



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 15th, 2020 07:13 9th Post
Wimp!!! :lol::lol::lol:



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Posted by jk: Fri May 15th, 2020 07:33 10th Post
Eric wrote:
Leaving it in the cupboard is worse....which is what would happen if I was being asked to lug 10kg of gear around with me. Actually when you are going birding there is no better combo (IMHO). 
The whole unit on a tripod makes for a very easily portable, if heavy, rig.  If you take it apart to make it easier to carry it actually become unwieldy.  Slung over the shoulder with the lens down your back and holding the tripod legs it seems no different to carrying the D3S with a 300mm lens!  Doesnt seem logical but is a reality.



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 15th, 2020 07:42 11th Post
jk wrote:
Actually when you are going birding there is no better combo (IMHO). 
The whole unit on a tripod makes for a very easily portable, if heavy, rig.  If you take it apart to make it easier to carry it actually become unwieldy.  Slung over the shoulder with the lens down your back and holding the tripod legs it seems no different to carrying the D3S with a 300mm lens!  Doesnt seem logical but is a reality.
That's what I do when I go to motor racing, albeit with a heavy monopod, very comfortable.



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Posted by chrisbet: Fri May 15th, 2020 08:08 12th Post
Lol - my 610 with the 70-300 is a mere 1.7 kg, I can carry it with two fingers :lol:



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Posted by jk: Fri May 15th, 2020 10:04 13th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Lol - my 610 with the 70-300 is a mere 1.7 kg, I can carry it with two fingers :lol: That what comes from taking bolts out with your fingers.  Hands as strong as spanners!!  :lol:



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Posted by chrisbet: Fri May 15th, 2020 11:04 14th Post
Ten pin bowling helps too ... :cheersduo:



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Posted by Eric: Fri May 15th, 2020 15:40 15th Post
Robert wrote:
Wimp!!! :lol::lol::lol: Probably. 

That said, it's not an inability to do it...did it for years commercially.
I just don't see the need to make a task unnecessarily tiresome, if you can achieve the same results carrying a fraction of the weight.

Same with blankets v duvet, overcoats v anoraks, steel v aluminium.



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Posted by Eric: Fri May 15th, 2020 16:03 16th Post
jk wrote:
Actually when you are going birding there is no better combo (IMHO). 
The whole unit on a tripod makes for a very easily portable, if heavy, rig.  If you take it apart to make it easier to carry it actually become unwieldy.  Slung over the shoulder with the lens down your back and holding the tripod legs it seems no different to carrying the D3S with a 300mm lens!  Doesnt seem logical but is a reality.
Or you could just carry it in a long holster and leave your hands free for the bins.

D500 + 1.4 tc + 500mm (with lens hood in place)



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Posted by jk: Fri May 15th, 2020 16:13 17th Post
Man on a mission!
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