Moderated by: chrisbet,
D3100 FlashHow to force it to fire.  Rate Topic 
AuthorPost

Posted by Adco: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 05:48 1st Post
I have a D3100 and I am using it with a Sigma 105mm Macro lems. I want to take pics of insects primarily. I was advised to get an external flash to help me light up the subjects. At the moment I get reasonable shots (see my gallery) using ambient light only.

The question is this: how do I make the camera fire the flash even if it thinks it is not needed? I am shooting in "P" mode. I am looking for a setting like the one on a mobile phone where you can force the flash to fire every time.

Also, am I going about the Macro route correctly? I see there are also LED Macro rings available but the reviews aren't great. Any comments on LED rings?



Posted by Robert: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 07:13 2nd Post
Simple, press the button which raises the flash, it should fire for every image while it's raised.

If you are in fully auto mode you may need to point the camera into a dark area or with the lens cap momentarily else the camera may not raise the flash, even if you press the flash raise button. My 3300 is a bit picky about raising the flash in fully auto mode if it thinks it isn't needed.

A tip, if the flash is overpowering the lighting is to drape a piece of white paper tissue over the flash, it will defuse the flash and cut it's brightness so it's a less intense pinpoint of light. A tab of sticky tape will hold it in place if needed.



____________________
Robert.



Posted by Adco: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 07:47 3rd Post
Robert wrote:
Simple, press the button which raises the flash, it should fire for every image while it's raised.

If you are in fully auto mode you may need to point the camera into a dark area or with the lens cap momentarily else the camera may not raise the flash, even if you press the flash raise button. My 3300 is a bit picky about raising the flash in fully auto mode if it thinks it isn't needed.

A tip, if the flash is overpowering the lighting is to drape a piece of white paper tissue over the flash, it will defuse the flash and cut it's brightness so it's a less intense pinpoint of light. A tab of sticky tape will hold it in place if needed.
Duh! That is so easy! Who would have thought....Thanks for that.



Posted by Robert: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 10:28 4th Post
My pleasure, the D200 and D300's work exactly the same way

My problem is the D3300 flash popping up in broad daylight! Gaffer tape fixes it, but it's still annoying.



____________________
Robert.



Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 13:06 5th Post
Adco wrote:
I have a D3100 and I am using it with a Sigma 105mm Macro lems. I want to take pics of insects primarily. I was advised to get an external flash to help me light up the subjects. At the moment I get reasonable shots (see my gallery) using ambient light only.

The question is this: how do I make the camera fire the flash even if it thinks it is not needed? I am shooting in "P" mode. I am looking for a setting like the one on a mobile phone where you can force the flash to fire every time.

Also, am I going about the Macro route correctly? I see there are also LED Macro rings available but the reviews aren't great. Any comments on LED rings?

It's my experience that the more hardware you wave at an insect, the more likely you will scare it off! This is especially true in the field.

Switching the flash on, in P mode, will force the camera to use its flash shutter sync speed. Not sure what that speed is for the D3100 but it may be too slow for moving bugs...and it may cause the camera to choose too wide an aperture ...that isn't ideal for macro.



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 13:21 6th Post
Robert wrote:
Simple, press the button which raises the flash, it should fire for every image while it's raised.

If you are in fully auto mode you may need to point the camera into a dark area or with the lens cap momentarily else the camera may not raise the flash, even if you press the flash raise button. My 3300 is a bit picky about raising the flash in fully auto mode if it thinks it isn't needed.

A tip, if the flash is overpowering the lighting is to drape a piece of white paper tissue over the flash, it will defuse the flash and cut it's brightness so it's a less intense pinpoint of light. A tab of sticky tape will hold it in place if needed.

At a school reunion (Jan's) I was wandering round taking impromptu shots with a serviette wedged over the flash on my D300 ...while holding a plate of food in the other hand. Caused a great deal of amusement...and got lots of spontaneous smiles.



____________________
Eric


Posted by jk: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 14:10 7th Post
Teeheee.
They didnt know what a good photographer you were Eric!



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none


Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 12th, 2017 14:56 8th Post
jk wrote:
Teeheee.
They didnt know what a good photographer you were Eric!

WERE?


:lol:



____________________
Eric


Posted by Adco: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 04:20 9th Post
Eric wrote:
Adco wrote:
I have a D3100 and I am using it with a Sigma 105mm Macro lems. I want to take pics of insects primarily. I was advised to get an external flash to help me light up the subjects. At the moment I get reasonable shots (see my gallery) using ambient light only.

The question is this: how do I make the camera fire the flash even if it thinks it is not needed? I am shooting in "P" mode. I am looking for a setting like the one on a mobile phone where you can force the flash to fire every time.

Also, am I going about the Macro route correctly? I see there are also LED Macro rings available but the reviews aren't great. Any comments on LED rings?

It's my experience that the more hardware you wave at an insect, the more likely you will scare it off! This is especially true in the field.

Switching the flash on, in P mode, will force the camera to use its flash shutter sync speed. Not sure what that speed is for the D3100 but it may be too slow for moving bugs...and it may cause the camera to choose too wide an aperture ...that isn't ideal for macro.
Generally, the insects are either stationary or moving very slowly anyway. The fast moving or flying insects don't get snapped because they just become a blurry mess.

I don't think the additional bulk will make a difference. Either they don't care and stay put or they see you coming and move to the other side of the leaf or stalk. I found that a fly on a leaf can stay put for a long time. It's as if they are sleeping. A leaf hopper never seems to sleep and I always only get a fleeting glimpse of them as they disappear.



Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 05:50 10th Post
Adco wrote:
Eric wrote:
Adco wrote:
I have a D3100 and I am using it with a Sigma 105mm Macro lems. I want to take pics of insects primarily. I was advised to get an external flash to help me light up the subjects. At the moment I get reasonable shots (see my gallery) using ambient light only.

The question is this: how do I make the camera fire the flash even if it thinks it is not needed? I am shooting in "P" mode. I am looking for a setting like the one on a mobile phone where you can force the flash to fire every time.

Also, am I going about the Macro route correctly? I see there are also LED Macro rings available but the reviews aren't great. Any comments on LED rings?

It's my experience that the more hardware you wave at an insect, the more likely you will scare it off! This is especially true in the field.

Switching the flash on, in P mode, will force the camera to use its flash shutter sync speed. Not sure what that speed is for the D3100 but it may be too slow for moving bugs...and it may cause the camera to choose too wide an aperture ...that isn't ideal for macro.
Generally, the insects are either stationary or moving very slowly anyway. The fast moving or flying insects don't get snapped because they just become a blurry mess.

I don't think the additional bulk will make a difference. Either they don't care and stay put or they see you coming and move to the other side of the leaf or stalk. I found that a fly on a leaf can stay put for a long time. It's as if they are sleeping. A leaf hopper never seems to sleep and I always only get a fleeting glimpse of them as they disappear.

I haven't done any bug photography for some years. This is the last and it was 6years ago. 8-). Time really does fly!

Attachment: 8FD92CF4-BAF6-4A86-8506-FD0C66B332F0.jpeg (Downloaded 5 times)



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 05:53 11th Post
Really made me feel old as I looked back to when my wife and I were doing a lot of bug photography and that's....10years ago!!!:needsahug:8-):'(

Attachment: FDA0B2BB-A7B6-4325-A631-F480E19CACCD.jpeg (Downloaded 5 times)



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 05:54 12th Post
Here's one of my wife's....

Attachment: C77B61AF-A97E-4B8D-AF21-796D80A9D154.jpeg (Downloaded 5 times)



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 05:57 13th Post
Dragonflies are very obliging as they settle on bare sticks to digest their food...and don't move. The robber fly was eating its lunch ...on the side of our car!!



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 05:58 14th Post
Here's a shieldbug on our double glazed window...hence the shadow.

Attachment: B4FA6765-B75E-4B01-8390-E13777B3D150.jpeg (Downloaded 5 times)



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 06:00 15th Post
I had a bit of fun with the shield bug....caught it in a plastic cup and waited till it climbed out. It then went round and round the rim, so I decided to do a crazy multi image. Only problem was it turned round and went back the other way just as I wanted to get the 4th image. :whip:

Attachment: DB24788E-03D2-4AEA-8062-4D58847DE1A0.jpeg (Downloaded 5 times)



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 06:07 16th Post
Should have said ....all taken with natural light. I am not a fan of ring flash as it gives a flat lighting effect. IMHO. I did try the expensive Nikon SBR1 flash head unit. Found it good in that you can vary lighting side to side to give more shadow control ....but it was bulky and a pain to set up. (I am a lazy photograper! :lol:)



____________________
Eric


Posted by Adco: Mon Nov 13th, 2017 06:45 17th Post
Nice shots Eric. Thanks for sharing.


Reply
1st new
This is topic ID = 1479  
Nikon DSLR Forums > Light, Lighting Techniques, Strobes and LEDs Forums > Lighting > D3100 Flash Top

Users viewing this topic

Post quick reply

Current theme is Blue



A small amount of member data is captured and held in an attempt to reduce spammers and to manage users. This site also uses cookies to ensure ease of use. In order to comply with new DPR regulations you are required to agree/disagree with this process. If you do not agree then please email the Admins using info@nikondsl.uk Thank you.


Hosted by Octarine Services

UltraBB 1.173 Copyright © 2008-2024 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.0948 seconds (66% database + 34% PHP). 125 queries executed.