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Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 21:53
 
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Constable wrote: moonlight1811 wrote:

Would something like this suffice as an adapter to make the macro close up lenses work?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002E3WJU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1WFSHX6J483SX


Hi Melissa

Welcome to the forum. That step-up adaptor is exactly what you want.
The depth of field is very shallow with one of the close-up filters. Tripod is probably needed although you can get away with handolding when there is plenty of light ( like in Texas;-)).

Ed,

Thank you. I went ahead and ordered the adapter =] I'm excited for it to arrive so I can see what all of these things do! I'll have to think about a tripod next it seems like.

I posted one picture in my introductory post in the new members section if you're interested in taking a look at it =]



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Robert wrote: If your lens is 52mm and the close up lenses are 55mm then yes that is exactly what you need.

In a way your mom may have done you a favour, getting the 55mm close up lenses means if you do get another lens for your camera, they have a better chance of them fitting directly, provided of course it has 52 or 55mm threads.

The depth of focus for close up images is always very shallow, no matter what the method. The greater the magnification the shorter the distance which contains an acceptably sharp image becomes.

The only way to get closer without loosing depth of focus is to crop the image and enlarge the displayed image but that still has severe limitations.

Robert,

I will just view it as my mom having done me a favor! She was really just trying to do something nice for me.

I think I will just have to play around with them once the adapter arrives in order to properly understand everything you've said. I think I'm more of a visual and kinesthetic learner =]

Also, thanks for clearing up the thing about the clicks. Had me freaked out for a second there!



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In the film days it cost about $0.25 to $1.00 a shot
Anyone who could afford to burn $25,000 to $100,000 in the course of a couple of years certainly wasn't worried about wearing out their shutter

Today with digital it is all too easy to rattle off a thousand frames at an event, which can be good when you're learning but you should be aware of the cost

If your camera body cost $1000 and it breaks down after 25,000 shots then it has cost you about $0.04/shot
If your camera body cost $1000 and it breaks down after 100,000 shots then it has cost you about $0.01/shot

In your case I think that the body (without lenses) has a value of around $500 which translates to a cost of $0.005 to $0.02 each shot

Cameras in this price bracket are usually replaced by their owners when this happens since the cost of repair is often uneconomical running into hundreds of dollars

Click the following link and scroll down to read 'disadvantages'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal-plane_shutter



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The professional Nikon DSLR camera shutters are rated at MTBF of 150000-250000 releases. The prosumer ones are 100000-125000.

It is another good reason to work with two cameras as you reduce redundancy and also reduce single camera MBTF likelihood as shots are spread between two cameras.

Depends of depth of pockets and the like but for me having two cameras on the go means that I can shoot on one camera and if my buffer fills up then I can instantly switch to the second camera.



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Especially good using two bodies because you can use a longer lens on one and a wider lens on the other, with different settings to suit the two lenses.

Football, motorsport, track events, probably most sports, I even use two bodies when photographing flowers, one to take the actual images I want, the other to give me a general image of the location and more importantly to capture the GPS location and a pic of the plant name plate with the latinised name and bio details. I frequently need flash to capture the name plate because it's often hidden under foliage so the D200 pop up flash is very handy under those circumstances.



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Y'all are using big words now! MBTF? I'm just now starting to properly comprehend aperture! lol
I will have to make due with my Nikon D3100 for now. I will just have to take extra care with it and make it last for as long as I can. Besides, for now this is only a hobby and something I just take a great amount of interest in. I don't intend on making it a career =]



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Mean Time Between Failures!

JK was a scientist... Everything can be broken down to numbers (by scientists) LOL.

To you and I, it should last a long while.



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A scientist?! Oh my. I can't keep up with that. Thanks for putting that into normal people language lol

I'm a musician, no scientist! :P



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moonlight1811 wrote:
Y'all are using big words now! MBTF? I'm just now starting to properly comprehend aperture! lol
I will have to make due with my Nikon D3100 for now. I will just have to take extra care with it and make it last for as long as I can. Besides, for now this is only a hobby and something I just take a great amount of interest in. I don't intend on making it a career =]


You'll be fine. My wife and I have owned quite a few NIkon cameras between us and the only one that broke suffered a fall onto a tiled floor from a kitchen cabinet (knocked off by a young niece so we grinned and bore it). Genuine mechanical failure is covered by your Nikon warranty year 1, take lots of shots and if it makes past this you're good for a while. Whilst Doug's point is technically true most amateur photographers change cameras because they get upgrade lust rather than the camera wearing out. Many cameras don't get measured in the failure rate because the stop getting used before they fail (like my D70 and I'm afraid to say D200).

In a nutshell if you wear out your shutter you will either be very unlucky or be very, very unusual in the amount of shots you take as an amateur.

Don't let it fall onto a hard surface, but don't worry about taking shots.

There is some merit in not becoming 'click' happy for a different reason though, - if I just grab a camera and go mad I rarely take a good shot. My best shots are always taken with a bit more thought and purpose.

 




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richw wrote: Whilst Doug's point is technically true most amateur photographers change cameras because they get upgrade lust rather than the camera wearing out.
In a nutshell if you wear out your shutter you will either be very unlucky or be very, very unusual in the amount of shots you take as an amateur.

There is some merit in not becoming 'click' happy for a different reason though, - if I just grab a camera and go mad I rarely take a good shot. My best shots are always taken with a bit more thought and purpose.

I will take good care of it! I already call it "my child" and even gave it a name lol. Yes, that probably makes me a little weird, but I'm okay with that.

Upgrade lust, eh? Well, I guess I should make sure that any additional lens I might purchase will work with other Nikons. I'm guessing Nikon is friendly enough to allow lenses to work with more than just one body. Purchasing body and lenses all over again would be very costly.

I wouldn't consider myself "click happy", but I do need to work more on the thought and purpose part of it. I have a friend who is going to be a test subject for portraits in a few weeks, so that may help!

Thanks for the reassurance :)



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