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Posted by PRSS: Thu Oct 25th, 2012 12:40 1st Post
Hello everybody!

I have just now purchased an ips panel monitor 23 inches - ASUS PA238Q which had very good specs and seems to have won many awards.

To me the monitor seem to be very good. I have bought this especially for color editing of my Interior Design Project photos of building interiors. I have not yet dug into it and have just started using it with the default setting.

It has sRgb setting and "standard" setting & other presets and an user setting.

Which setting - sRgb or Standard - should i use for normal viewing of pictures (JPEG images) and which one should I use for photo editing - especially for correcting colors.

I shoot in RAW+jpeg Fine and edit them in Adobe Lightroom or Nikon View NX2.

This also has an Asus icc profile. Should I use this profile while photo editing?

My final image would be saved as a JPEG image. ( I save it as 16 bit TIFF for a master file - jpeg file is saved from this tiff file).

I am quite confused on this sRgb setting Vs the Asus ICC profile. My vendor told me that Asus icc profile should be used for best color rendering. How do I view this jpeg images with this Asus profile?

Thanks in advance
PRSS



Posted by jk: Thu Oct 25th, 2012 13:29 2nd Post
If you want to make sure that what you see is what you get (WYSIWYG) then you really need to calibrate your monitor using something like a Pantone Spyder or ColorMunki.

If you use the sRGB colour space and shoot in that colour space then stuff will be matching but sRGB is a truncated colour space. I use Adobe RGB1998 for my camera and profile my monitors as above.

Take a look on the Luminous Landscape to find out more about colour profiles and colour management. This is not a trivial subject! :-)



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Posted by PRSS: Thu Oct 25th, 2012 22:00 3rd Post
Thank you for the reply. I never knew that I should shoot in Adobe RGB1998. My Nikon D5100 has this facility - I noted it only after your reply! I have been shooting in sRgb all this time.

I shall definitely take a look on the Luminous Landscape.

In the meanwhile, if I shoot in AdobeRGB1998 and process in Adobe RGB1998 profile and save as jpegs, how will my clients see these images on their monitors?

With best regards
PRSS



Posted by PRSS: Thu Oct 25th, 2012 23:42 4th Post
One more Serious Advise from you is solicited.

The Building Interior Photos never get printed are rarely get printed. If at all from an outside drugstore digital lab where they do printing on regular photographic paper.

So all the photos (they are meant for my projects profile to show potential clients my interior design works)are viewed in my office discussion room on a large screen TV with 1366 x 768 resolution. What I had been doing all these days (before the purchase of this IPS panel monitor), was to adjust the colors of the photos in such a way that it looks right on that TV. All the images are saved as jpegs after the adjustments.

Considering this, will it be really useful for me to use Adobe RGB1998 in the camera as well as in the photo editor to get these kind of pictures - or would I be better off doing it in the same way as I had done all along.

I know very well that this is a very deep subject. That is why I am asking you. Whether I should spend lot of time meddling with color spaces and gamuts to get the above mentioned pictures - will it be worthwhile the time spent for viewing on the TV?


I have of course archived all the photos in RAW format - waiting for the time that I bought an IPS panel monitor and then take my own leisurely time to learn the naunces of all these color spaces and gamuts etc.

I bought this monitor more for my serious photography hobby of taking pictorial photographs.(which I had not done for several years - when I used to shoot film - many photos have been exhibited in salons). This digital thing now really baffles me. I do not have the same ease while taking photos as I did when I used to shoot in film (transparencies).

It has to be a re-learning process through these wonderful forums.

Please answer my question to put me at ease!

With best regards
PRSS



Posted by Eric: Fri Oct 26th, 2012 17:36 5th Post
The truth is that unless your clients have a similarly calibrated monitor they are unlikely to see the same colour and tonal representation of your image that you see ...regardless of what you do to your equipment.

Look at it like this.... The monitor is like a window into the scene outside. If your window is clean and pure white glass, the scene will look correct. But if your glass is tinted, dirty or misted, then the scene will look different.

So it follows that the image you capture, however correct it is in the camera, will appear differently on different monitors.

The only thing you can do is ensure the camera captured colour/tones are correct OR that any post capture corrections you make are necessary. And this is where YOUR monitor accuracy and calibration are important.

If YOUR monitor is incorrect when you view the new image you may decide corrections are needed..when they aren't! For example, if you monitor has a slight blue cast, you may be fooled into thinking your image needs more yellow. After adjusting, it may then look ok on your monitor ....but print too yellow! What's more...If your clients screen has by chance a yellow cast..the adjusted image will then look doubly yellow! You can't compensate for other peoples screens all you can do is get yours right.

The whole monitor calibration thing is about making sure you don't mess unnecessarily with your images.



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Posted by jk: Sat Oct 27th, 2012 12:01 6th Post
PRSS wrote: One more Serious Advise from you is solicited.

The Building Interior Photos never get printed are rarely get printed. If at all from an outside drugstore digital lab where they do printing on regular photographic paper.

So all the photos (they are meant for my projects profile to show potential clients my interior design works)are viewed in my office discussion room on a large screen TV with 1366 x 768 resolution. What I had been doing all these days (before the purchase of this IPS panel monitor), was to adjust the colors of the photos in such a way that it looks right on that TV. All the images are saved as jpegs after the adjustments.

Considering this, will it be really useful for me to use Adobe RGB1998 in the camera as well as in the photo editor to get these kind of pictures - or would I be better off doing it in the same way as I had done all along.

I know very well that this is a very deep subject. That is why I am asking you. Whether I should spend lot of time meddling with color spaces and gamuts to get the above mentioned pictures - will it be worthwhile the time spent for viewing on the TV?


I have of course archived all the photos in RAW format - waiting for the time that I bought an IPS panel monitor and then take my own leisurely time to learn the naunces of all these color spaces and gamuts etc.

I bought this monitor more for my serious photography hobby of taking pictorial photographs.(which I had not done for several years - when I used to shoot film - many photos have been exhibited in salons). This digital thing now really baffles me. I do not have the same ease while taking photos as I did when I used to shoot in film (transparencies).

It has to be a re-learning process through these wonderful forums.

Please answer my question to put me at ease!

With best regards
PRSS
If you are outputting images for use on the web you need to save them in sRGB colourspace.  All this is very confusing at first but over time becomes a standard thing you do.

DIgital does require some relearning especially about exposure and not over-exposing is very important as you can usually recover a slight or up to 2 stops underexposure but if it is overexposed then data are lost.



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Posted by PRSS: Sun Oct 28th, 2012 01:30 7th Post
Thank you very much Eric & JK. That is quite a lot of useful advise. I have already started re-learning the digital way of photograhing. The forum has been very useful and helpful to me.

With best regards

PRSS


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