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Posted by TomOC: Mon May 7th, 2012 21:10

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There's a new version of GIMP if you can compile it yourself...

Compiled versions ready "soon."

Tom

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/05/07/gimp-2-8-gets-a-major-facelift/

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Posted by jk: Tue May 8th, 2012 04:11

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Yes I saw that they had finally released the v.2.8 of the source code on the 4th May.
I may download and try to compile!
Probably easier to wait for one of the regular sources to provide the compiled app for Mac or else get it via MacPorts.

I want to get the Linux version for my netbook. However small screens arent really conducive to good editing and also the colour rendering is poorer on my Acer Aspire units.

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Posted by KirkP: Fri May 11th, 2012 00:48

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JK, be careful, I attempted a compile and crashed twice in a row. I'm content with the current Windows stable release, since Gimpshop stopped being updated I just loaded the PSPI plugin and fixed up my toolbars and other sub-windows to work as I want them to work.

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Posted by KirkP: Fri May 11th, 2012 01:43

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Correction: Just looked at sourceforge, they have a Windows installer ready for download at 76.2MB.

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Posted by jk: Fri May 11th, 2012 04:11

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I tried a compile on my Mac but it fell over as I need some extra libraries. I dont have time at present to investigate this I have too many other things on as I need to get my scuba diving underway for the summer and also I have some other stuff I need to work out before that.

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Posted by KirkP: Fri May 11th, 2012 16:30

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Another note: If you want to be able to revisit your older PSD files with Gimp, at a later date, be sure to use your current version of Photoshop to re-save the PSD files in a compatible format with old versions of Photoshop. Gimp used the Photoshop 6 version of PSD file formats when adding support to the program, but Adobe has since made PSD files completely proprietary. Gimp won't totally support PSD (such as History) but usually will keep your layers intact.

Batch processing, anyone? Boy have I got a lot of work ahead of me.

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Posted by jk: Sat May 12th, 2012 07:20

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And now we have GIMP v2.8 for Mac
http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Download.html

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Posted by jk: Sat May 12th, 2012 08:49

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Installed and running.
I think I have a whole big learning curve to go through if I am to use this instead of CS5/6.

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Posted by KirkP: Sat May 12th, 2012 13:40

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No argument there, JK. Thing is, I've been using Photoshop since PS 4, and you have probably even longer. It's taken 10 years for us to get to this point with Photoshop, and Gimp cannot do everything that Photoshop can. I briefly considered Paint Shop Pro, but that also has issues.

From a pro standpoint, nothing matches Photoshop, I understand that. Certainly, Adobe understands that, also. If you recall, I started griping about Adobe and their anti-piracy efforts a couple years ago, and I had realized that Gimp actually gives me all the tools I really need. First thing I did was open the same photos I wanted to edit further, in both programs... and what I did in Photoshop, I tried to do in Gimp, during the same editing time. Yes, the learning curve was a bit steep, but the thing is, so was Photoshop for the first three versions I used. They're both incredibly complex and powerful apps, but I liken this to using Windows and MacOSX or Windows and Debian Linux. Two different tools, but the principles are the same. Heck, most of the icons on the toolbar are the same.

I think the first thing I actually did, was increase the RAM in my Photoshop computer to 8 gigs, so I could run both PS and Gimp at the same time. I'll probably never get rid of PS completely... by now I know it well enough to perform edits really fast, and if I need speed, PS will be the tool until I get to that same point with Gimp.

But, you're like me in that you're retired, and you've got the time. You do more pro work that I do, so you'll need PS even more, I would think... no sense cutting off your nose to spite the face.

I really do think that Adobe is going to go completely to a subscription model with their next upgrade, therefore I'm going to be prepared. I might even spend the money for a CS6 upgrade disc, since Gimp is free. It's too bad Adobe is making corporate decisions that hurt the end user, but that's their decisions to make. I figure in two or three years, CS7 will be Cloud-only and I'll have learned the Gimp enough to drop Photoshop entirely.

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Posted by KirkP: Sat May 12th, 2012 16:08

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JK, found a video tut that might get you started a little easier, while it is a couple years old, it's based on Gimp 2.7 which was a non-stable (but workable) version intermediate to the final release of 2.8 version.

The young lady doing the introductory video does a pretty good job of explaining basic setup of the Gimp, she is using it on Fedora. She has an American accent and clearly had a bit too much coffee the morning she did this, since she talks very fast... but it might help you to see how to set up your install so that it more mimics what you're used to in PSCS5.

http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2012/04/13/gimp-2-7-for-photoshop-expatriates/

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Posted by jk: Sat May 12th, 2012 17:08

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Thanks Kirk.
I'll take a look.

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Posted by moonlight1811: Wed May 23rd, 2012 01:04

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Gimp? I had never heard of it and have only been using iPhoto for anything Ive done so far.
So after you all have educated me, I downloaded this Gimp. Looks complicated and confusing...but oh! The possibilities! :-)

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Posted by KirkP: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 11:43

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Complex and confusing, but also powerful and flexible.

Photoshop is the gold standard, right now. However, Adobe seems to be attempting to generate more revenue from Photoshop by introducing a 'subscription' to the software, for more than it would cost to buy Photoshop alone. If you buy the entire suite of image tools (Illustrator, Premiere) you pay less for the subscription, but I'm just a still photographer.

Photoshop is also becoming bloated and requires a great deal of expensive computer to run it fast. The programmers have included a LOT of extra tools, such as 3D image processing and video processing, since newer DSLRs can take 720p or 1080p video. I don't need nor want those abilities.

Gimp is free... and while it is not nearly as powerful as Photoshop, it does nearly everything that Photoshop can do, for no money and about the same learning curve.

Having typed ALL that, iPhoto is a very good software to learn how to develop your camera images into excellent prints. Learn the basics, learn the rules of photography, understand the language we all use, and you'll be surprised how fast your skills develop. I used to recommend Photoshop to everyone, even beginners, since it can be used by beginners to experts. Now, I recommend people stay with their starting image editing software til they find that it is limiting them, just like a camera... when the camera is holding you back, it's time to get a better one.

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Posted by PRSS: Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 10:42

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Even this version of GIMP does not support 16 bit editing. That is a real pity.

With best regards
PRSS

Posted by jk: Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 17:03

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I'm happy to use either but for more complex tasks I definitely feel more competent in PS CS6.

However if they were to get Actions into GIMP in a serious way like in Photoshop it would make the transition easier. I fear that the current plethora of scripts, code and other offerings in GIMPS is too confusing unless you are a geek (or even if you are one)!
:lol:

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