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| Posted: Sat Oct 21st, 2017 13:39 |
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Robert
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When I started my desktop Mac Pro up last night I was greeted with an announcement from Adobe that they are introducing a web based version of Lightroom. Between other tasks today, I have been updating my desktop Mac Pro Adobe software, Photoshop and Lightroom. The list of improvements is quite long and will take some time to work through. My most longed for improvement is to Lightroom's Map section, it had become somewhat sluggardly and silly. Every time you moved the map or resized it, the map image was replaced with a black and white 'whole world' projection and a message proclaiming "Offline"! This annoyed me because I am most definitely NOT offline. This has been fixed and the map is now stable, behaves as expected, responsively and without delay or silly messages. Apart from that I had few complaints about Lr. It will remain to be seen how it will measure up in use. Right now I don't have time for 'testing'. I'm more interested in making a panorama tripod head. The questionable change as I see is the apparent morph of Lightroom, to an 'online' version. I haven't attempted to download or install that as yet, it seems it revolves around storing all image files on Adobe servers. I have up to 20 Mb storage available included as part of my existing contract, it currently contains two Excel spreadsheets and one image! LOL. The 20Mb can be upgraded to 1Tb at an additional charge. There is no way I will tolerate Adobe managing the storage of all (or any) of my master image files, no matter how they plead that it's efficient, convenient, cost effective, faster or any other claim. I do store *some* low res, reduced quality, JPEG image files on Flicker, purely for convenience of publishing them on forums such as this. Other than that my master image files will remain on MY computer where I can manage them as I want them. At the moment I could manage with 1Tb but with my creation of star trails, time lapse and 360º panoramas that could change soon. If I had a D850, overnight!!!  One thing which I am quite excited about is the inclusion of 'Adobe Portfolio', It's a 'free' (no extra charge) facility to create a web based presence, a free website if you like, where you can showcase your images. I have explored it briefly and will take another longer look this evening, you have an exclusive .myportfolio.com URL. My only reservation so far is the apparent lack of caption or image data (brief EXIF) facility, per image, the user can apparently title the sections or classifications. From what I have seen so far it provides a structured, slick, high quality layout, into which the user can insert their images, unlimited capacity, with seemingly varied layouts and themes.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21st, 2017 14:22 |
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Iain
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Like you my images stay on my HD. I've looked at the new lightroom and at the moment am not impressed so will stick to the classic LR for now.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21st, 2017 16:29 |
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jk
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Not interested in any way. My answer to Adobe questions is......... Adobe who? Greedy greedy company. Time for these large corporates to understand that their positions of dominance is due to customer loyalty and payments and not down to anything special that they are doing to in their offices and coffee rooms. My money goes to other companies who provide software tthat I can purchase rather than rent! Adobe can go down the tubes for all I care. There are other softwares that are equal or better.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21st, 2017 17:45 |
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Robert
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I think I may try the web based software on my MacBook Pro, there are only a few images on there, just in case it starts trying to hoover up my image files and place them on their servers. If I can work the principle to my advantage then I may use it but only if it works for me. If I can find a way of using it to transfer images from the MBP to my Mac Pro desktop and into Lightroom the way I want then it will be useful, otherwise they can shove it, I will stick with Classic, though I expect they will discontinue classic eventually, when they get sufficient people on board. I need to do some more studying of the FAQ's and some reviews before I rush into it. The trouble with the smaller software companies is they get swallowed up by the big boys, who then spit them out devoid of any product. I believe it's called asset stripping. Trouble is we loose the software. Look at Bibble and NIK... Both been bought out then discontinued. At least when Adobe bought out the content aware software they have developed it further and incorporated it into their products. I wish they had bought out NIK Filters and incorporated the selection principle into Ps and Lr. It's by far the best, quickest and easiest way I have found of applying selective adjustments. Back to designing my panoramic head.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21st, 2017 19:54 |
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TomOC
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I'm still trying to figure out how to use LR mobile ! So far all I seem to understand is that it's slurping all the images in my iPhone Camera Roll  I have the Photography subscription for LR and PS...I'm too old to change now
____________________ Tom O'Connell -Lots of people talk to animals.... Not very many listen, though.... That's the problem. Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 08:07 |
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jk
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For those of you looking for alternatives see here. Some Lightroom Alternatives – Updated MacPhun Luminar is coming big in the last few months, with versions for Mac and Windows. Definitely worth to check it out. And a new version is coming soon. Capture One is a great alternative, especially since they recently improved the X-Trans support (but we still wait for a few more things sich as Fujifilm GFX support and film simulation profiles). Check out also this Fujifilm-centric Capture One webinar. Also ON1 has made progress in the Fuji X-Trans world. They improved the X-Trans demosaicing first on February 15 here, and then on June 7 here. They promised film simulation profiles on July 21 here and On1 Photo Raw 2018 is coming with a lot of new features. Iridient is a much-loved RAW demosaicing software by the Fuji X community. The “RAW Power†App brings Aperture style interface & functions to MacPhotos. We reported about it here. Another appreciated alternatives are Lightzone and Darktable. They are free and full of features (now also for windows). Moreover, the sourcecode is opensource and if the development stops, other people can go on with it. PhotoNinja Alien Skin Exposure X3
____________________ Still learning after all these years! https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 17:51 |
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Robert
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Thanks JK, do any of the suggestions have a viable Digital Asset Management module? GPS Location (Maps), Face recognition, hierarchical keywords and metadata searches? These are key to my using Lightroom. I will not use multiple software titles to perform the basic DAM functions and the basic image processing functions. I accept specialised things like star trails, focus stacking and sophisticated panorama processing demands specialised software but the vast majority of image management and basic processing should be within one software application program. I have been reading up on the forums about the NEW Lightroom CC (cloud based), not unexpectedly there is a lot of reaction. I have to preface this by saying I have not yet actually downloaded the NEW Lr CC myself. I intend to D/L it to my MBP this week but it's not going anywhere near my main library! I have some images on the MBP which I can use to experiment with. It seems the new Lr CC no longer has the map module, nor face recognition per se, hierarchical keywords and folders have also gone. From what I can gather ALL image files are dumped into one giant container. NO folders. That said I have read that you can use local file storage, but how that works I'm not sure yet. Again from what I can gather they are emulating what Apple has done with Photos and using Artificial Intelligence to sort out the mess. It should be able to find buildings, waterfalls, boats and rudimentary stuff like that but wether it can identify specific instances of boats, like 'fishing boats at Morecambe' or South American waterfalls, I very much doubt. If Adobe CAN overcome this obstacle and get the AI to make sense from chaos then I have no doubt they are on a winner, however, I rather doubt AI is up to the level needed just yet, I am getting way too many wrongly named faces in the face recognition module, even good clean likenesses, or inanimate objects are being wrongly named. The sheer impracticality of uploading large numbers of very high res NEFs to the cloud servers will put most people off. Most professional and serious photographers have many Tb of image files to which they are liable to need quick access. While I an understand (perhaps) the convenience of having finished images available on-line, I don't see the point in having hundreds of images which are stacked to create either panoramas, HDR images or star trails on-line, on the other hand they are not to be thrown away either. Anything which is oof, movement blur or badly exposed gets short shift, but well exposed sharp images which comprise a stacked image are kept. Much to think about here.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2017 04:12 |
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Eric
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I am totally resistant to the further propagation of cloud use. I've even got icloud storage switched off on our iPads! I have no need for synced devices anymore. We have a 3tb WD, WIFI portable hard drive which stores a complete copy of our select (currently 37,000) photo archive (also backed up at home) that we take with us. It is easily accessed by any device logged onto its MyCloud app. It's mains or battery operated, has an SD card slot, can even be used as a power source to charge other usb devices in the field. So we can not only take with us all our photos for viewing on our iPad but we upload new photos and movies on location without internet or even mains electricity connection. Movies clips CAN be compiled into short films, photos edited and catalogued ...before we get home....if the mood takes us. In fairness, with a battery life of only 8 hours, we would normally need to plug into the mains for extended access use. Perhaps we are different, in that we have no need or desire, to share our images with people around the world. We can bore friends and family by simply showing them the iPad. If they are drunk enough to want a copy of an image, it can be airdropped to their iPad or alternatively emailed. I prefer to cherry pick the parts that I want, from the increasingly Orwellian world we live in. 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2017 13:03 |
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jk
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Got to say I agree. Cloud computing is a fad that had been propagated out of Silicon Valley, CA where they have high resilience ultra fast internet access. This is not the case for the rest of he world. In fact I think the statistic is that 99% of the planet has less than 1Mb internet. What use of cloud computing to them!
____________________ Still learning after all these years! https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2017 15:05 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:Got to say I agree. My epiphany came sitting in a campsite in the middle of nowhere....well it was actually the Cevennes...but it was quite remote. No cellular or WiFi internet connection ...and I wanted to show some Belgian people shots of a place they were planning to visit. But even in deepest, darkest Yorkshire I get frustrated. My father's connection is very cheap and very slow (he has no need for speed) but it drives me to depths of despair, waiting for simple connections to deliver.
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