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Posted: Thu Jun 21st, 2012 18:59
 
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TomOC wrote:
Robert-

That's all I need to see that I must stick with my antiquated system of:

-Current pix on local HDD
- keyword them with Photo Mechanic (embedded in file - no sidecar)
- transfer to external drive
- ingest into Media Pro for archival catalog
- copy to offsite external drive for safety
- keep catalog file on Dropbox so it can be searched from desktop or laptop
- keep my sanity which doesn't understand why iphoto, aperture and LR need their own catalogs



hope you solve this - you're a better man than I am :-)

Tom


Well Robert's experience cost him two hrs, but the simplicity of the workflow might save you more than that a week Tom?

 




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Robert wrote:
I went ahead and recreated my LrCat, it took ten minutes to import the images and two hours to create the standard previews for 16,000 images.

Seems OK now, all the metadata seems intact.

Thanks for the suggestions.


But of course you would have lost your collections upon creating a new catalog



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Robert wrote:
It seems not...

I tried that method Rich, Thank you but it onlt 'found' a couple of images at a time, I tried it several times with different images, but no dice, so I am creating a new LrCat.

It took 10 minutes to import the images and after almost an hour it has created about 1/3 of the standard previews, so perhaps it will need another two hours?

I think I may know what the issue is but can't reveal it on open forum.


It wasn't that you had renamed or moved something externally (in the finder)?

If you had previously added the parent folder then you would be able to right click on it under 'folders' and relocate it and all of it's children in one step - I can't remember the specific command from the contextual menu

It should work if the parent folder has been renamed or relocated, provided the folder structure inside hasn't changed



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richw wrote:
Robert, it happens to me all the time with the NAS. You just need to go to grid view (hit G). Click on the question mark at the top right of the thumbnail for an image on the drive that you know the location of and click on 'Locate' in the message box that pops up. Find the image in the finder window that opens, Lightroom will automatically find everything else on the drive for you.

With this method oesn't it just find stuff in the same folder?



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Posted: Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 01:26
 
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Doug wrote:
It wasn't that you had renamed or moved something externally (in the finder)?

No, the folder structure was exactly the same as had worked fine previously. I had imported a couple of recent image folders in the previous week and accessed and exported some of the images.

Doug wrote:
If you had previously added the parent folder then you would be able to right click on it under 'folders' and relocate it and all of it's children in one step - I can't remember the specific command from the contextual menu

I selected the top folder 'Pictures' then selected a JPEG. While it did 'find' other missing images they didn't seem to be all of the images from the same folder as the selected one but a random selection although I could be wrong on that because I had the entire collection displayed and not in folder order. I did check back to the folder but I was a bit tired by that stage.

Doug wrote:
It should work if the parent folder has been renamed or relocated, provided the folder structure inside hasn't changed

I didn't try ctrl + click (I don't do left click) on a selected image. I simply followed Rich's method above.

This is the first time I have lost the connection with an entire catalogue. I have lost contact with the occasional image file if I moved it or renamed the folder in the finder but have always been able to return it to the catalogue.

It's working OK at the moment. I will keep an eye on it, I haven't deleted the faulty catalogue so I may try your method later Doug.



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OK, I sussed it.

:doh:

It was my fault. I had been experimenting with uploading multiple images to the Forum Gallery. To make the pathname more 'PC' like, I had removed the capital letters and spaces on the path to the images I was attempting to upload en mass. I had clean forgotten I had altered the folder names.

It was only when I used Doug's method of refreshing the Catalogue path that I realised what I had done.

Here is a walkthrough of Doug's procedure:

Select the master folder, right click or ctrl+click to get this...




Navigate to the actual folder and select it




Accept the 'Merge' option.



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This works perfectly provided your master folder was already visible in lightroom before the catalogue became corrupted

I recommend that anyone using lightroom should right click on one of their most deeply nested folders and add the parent folder, repeating if necessary with that folder and each folder above it in the hierarchy until they get to the top level image folder.

At least then it becomes a lot clearer where everything is located on your hard drive In the event of any issues.
(As dictated to Siri :-), Yes including the smiley face)



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WOW!

Been playing with Dictation too, not managed smilies yet though... It's quite remarkable. And accurate.



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I was going to start this as a seperate topic, except it's similiare to Robert's issue.

I have a few pictures that say the same thing that Robert is showing.  It says that the file is off line or missing.  I don't understand how it can be missing and still have a picture.

Most of my pictures are there in the files so when I right click on the picture file, the box does not ask to find the missing folder.  Not exactly sure how I'm going to find this file in the midst of a lot of folders and files.  Most are not that important, a couple are.  I am trying to organize my files and am making good progress.  By the way, I'm using a Windows pc.

Thanks,

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OK Rick, Rich may have his thoughts on this but here are mine.

The images you see in Lightroom are the Lr rendered images which are stored in the LrCat (Lightroom Catalogue) They are a very quick way to display the images while you browse the catalogue but they are NOT the actual images stored on your HD. It would be far to slow for Lr to dig them out, process and render them while you are browsing the Library.

What Lr is complaining about is the link between Lightroom and the ACTUAL images is broken.

I know nothing of PC file structures (which is why I use a Mac!) but I do know there is a folder called 'My Pictures' or something like that.

ALL of your photograph files should be in sub folders in that folder and NOWHERE else (Unless they are in a 'My Pictures' folder on an external drive).

In my system I have a similar folder, 'Pictures'. ALL of my general images are held in that folder.

If you look at the screenshots above you can see the folder structure

Pictures>

Year 1> Folders>

Shoot 1> images
Shoot 2> Images
Shoot 3> images
Etc.
Etc.

Year 2> Folders>

Shoot 1> images
Shoot 2> Images
Shoot 3> images
Etc.
Etc.

Year 3> And so on...

All my shoot folders are dated "yy-mm-dd Brief description". It took me a while and a lot of frustration before I devised this simple but effective hierarchy which works very well for me.

I have a separate HD for my botanical images with it's own LrCat.

In that I have something that looks like this...

Botanical Images>

Kew Botanic Gardens 1> Images
Oxford Botanic Gardens 1> Images
Ness Gardens 1> Images
Kew Botanic Gardens 2> Images

And so on...

You need to create a similar type of system which you can use to save your images into so you can find them and perhaps even more importantly, so Lightroom can find them too. The structure is up to you but it needs to have structure and order or it will quickly become a mess as you add more images over time.

You don't have to go by years you could go by subject, Football, Landscapes, Bears, Motorsport, etc. The problem arrises then if you mix subjects on one shoot... But it's up to you.

Once you have done that, create a new catalogue, point Lr at the folder "My Pictures' and go have a beer, or two!

Then discard the old LrCat file. Use the new one.



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