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Posted: Tue Apr 16th, 2013 15:55
 
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jk wrote:
Needs to have OSX Lion 10.7.x. or higher.
I really dont want to upgrade to Lion on my Macbook Air which is my main machine at present!
The underlying OS is the same it is just extra bells and whistles that I dont need/want in 10.7 and 10.8

I suppose I will have to put it on my Mountain Lion Machine. :-(

I wish that Apple would release the new updated Apple Mac Pro.


JK -

Put Mtn Lion on my wife's MBA and it is fine - Lion was not so hot.

I would say go for the upgrade - MBA runs as fast on ML as on SL

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JK and Robert-

I'll let you guys run the beta :-)

Sounds like a couple of good features

For me, the best might be an improved Blurb book section - dying to be able to make custom end flaps for the blurb books !!!



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TomOC wrote:
JK and Robert-

I'll let you guys run the beta :-)


It isn't real beta, it must be pretty well tamed/sorted to let the public play with it. Adobe aren't stupid, they know if it wrecked stuff there would be an almighty hue and cry.

I think it's their way of creating extra interest and loyalty from users while they put the finishing touches to the final release 'Gold Master' version, on the way past they get some useful feedback from users, which they might include in subsequent point releases. It seems like a win-win policy.

I have run all the 'beta' versions and not had a single issue.



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I agree...

I'll probably try it myself. I make a lot of blurb books and if the book app is really better, i want that.

I really don't use LR at all, I just don't get it with the catalogs and all, but that's just me. If you are NOT a strong photoshop user, it really makes a lot of sense. And now, some of the plugins (like perfect photo suite) work better with LR than with PS...go figure



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Tom, I think the problem with the catalogues and that side of things can be largely ignored.

There is a database of the images and a collection of the previews in the same folder, they can grow for a large collection but not ridiculously so.

For me the crucial thing is to add the images NOT ingest them.

Must go I have along day in Scotland tomorrow, talk later



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Thanks, Robert.

I now just import (add only) and set up my files that I will be working with and then when I am done, I just delete the whole LR catalog.

Keep in mind I have a system of keywording with Photo Mechanic (which puts the keywords in the file rather than sidecar files), ingest into my archive app - Media Pro (now holding more than 140,000 files that are all keyworded and searches in seconds) - and then generally use Bridge to select etc and then ACR, then usually Photoshop with lots of plugins to work the file.

I tried to find a way that usefully added LR to the mix, but it was the catalog issue that put me off - some of the features are great but I am back to using it only to finalize my blurb books at the moment.



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Tom, Lightroom doesn't put the keywords in sidecar files for me, Photoshop creates sidecar files, I don't mind that except having to remember to move or delete the sidecar with the original NEF file.

I have moved entire folder structures from one computer to another then created a new catalogue on the new computer, the keywords are intact.

I accept the key-wording in Lr isn't perfect, 9 recent words isn't enough and I find the entry methods cumbersome for long sessions, having to use the escape key to exit the process for each file is clumsy. It could be made much easier. I have tried other systems inc PhotoMechanic but keep coming back to Lr.

For a while I tried adding global keywords to each batch of daily imports, but found many keywords were inappropriate, it seems harder to remove keywords than add them, so now I only add truly global data like the year, month and location.

I am currently going through the keywords one by one and checking they are appropriate for each image and on the way past adding extra words if needed.


Now, where is my kilt and sporran and my passport...



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I downloaded Lr5 last night, it took just over an hour. I launched it and it immediately 'found' my mapping data I had entered into the beta Lr4 I used when I tested that version.

Will report back later on that.



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Good video on it here also:

http://photoshopuser.com/lightroom5/

 




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Robert if you want Keywords in your XMP files then you need to update your Catalog Settings.

/Lightroom/Catalog Settings....


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