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Posted by Waldo: Wed Nov 26th, 2014 10:44 1st Post
Picked up a Nikon D3200 recently....

Just thought I'd make my first post and say hi!

This is my first DSLR. While I've taken pics with other peoples DSLR's (and they usually come out pretty well) I've finally taken the step towards really getting into it and got my own.

I mainly got into photography due to cars (my main passion) and that cell phone camera just wasnt cutting it for what I wanted to do.

Anyhow, just thought I'd post here since I'm a beginner and gotta start someplace. So you'll probably start seeing more posts/threads from me around here



Posted by Robert: Wed Nov 26th, 2014 12:33 2nd Post
Hi Waldo, and welcome.

If you hit any snags just ask, we all hit snags occasionally!

What lens do you have with the D3200? I have a D3100 which has an 18-105 Nikkor pretty well permanently I bought the D3100 for video of plants but never really used it for that yet. I do however use it for my car pix. It saves my D200 from getting bashed around in the workshop while I am welding and machining stuff for my cars. Although crazy it sounds, I have been using my iPhone for that recently! LOL Probably because I was just too lazy to go and get the DSLR for a few shots.



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Posted by jk: Wed Nov 26th, 2014 12:49 3rd Post
Hi Waldo, and welcome to the forum.

I am sure we can give you help and advice if you need it.


If you have problems then please just start a new topic in the cameras forum and ask away.



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Posted by Waldo: Wed Nov 26th, 2014 12:58 4th Post
Currently I have the kit lense that comes with it, so the 15-55?

I'm looking to get a 50mm so I can get those wide shots, and I'll need something with more zoom at some point...however since I'm just getting into it, I'm trying not to blow through a grand right away haha



Posted by jk: Wed Nov 26th, 2014 18:00 5th Post
If you want wider than the 18-55 kit lens then you need to look for a 14mm lens. You are now in expensive territory.



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Posted by Waldo: Wed Nov 26th, 2014 18:36 6th Post
Ya I've noticed it's not a cheap hobby/profession...

14mm, ok I'll look around. I also like the fish eye look, any suggestions on something affordable but still good quality?



Posted by Eric: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 03:49 7th Post
Waldo wrote:
Ya I've noticed it's not a cheap hobby/profession...

14mm, ok I'll look around. I also like the fish eye look, any suggestions on something affordable but still good quality?

Hi Waldo
Welcome to the forum.
I am not sure if the excellent Sigma 10-20 lens can be used on your camera. Robert or Jonathan will be able to confirm this. If it can, then it would be top of my list of recommendations for wider than 18mm.

For fisheye effect you need to be down below 10mm. At these short focal lengths, tight focusing is frequently unnecessary, so manual focusing shouldn't be a constraint.

Kelda and Peleng do a cheapish 6.5mm and Vivitar do an 8mm.
Cant vouch for quality but frankly, creative distortion takes centre stage with fisheye lenses and people don't look that closely to see if its tack sharp.



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Posted by jk: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 04:01 8th Post
Yes the Sigma 10-20 can be used as it is a HSM lens.
If you want to get really wide angle shooting then this lens or the Tokina equivalents are very good.



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Posted by Robert: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 07:01 9th Post
I saw your mention of the 50mm lens and the comment about it's 'wideness'. The 50 is a very good lens which on the D3200 is a slightly telephoto f1.4 or f1.8, trouble is you need an 'S' version because the D3200 does not have a focus motor in the body which the non 'S' lenses need. The big advantage the fast lenses bring is that they can take photographs in very dim light without flash, flash often destroys the atmosphere of low light photographs. Also you can make the background very out of focus, which can be appealing to some.

The Sigma 10-20 is a super lens and is my only other lens which will work on my D3100. It can be used to very good effect in many situations, especially photographing cars, front corner or under the hoodI have many nice pix of race bikes taken with the 10-20 Sigma. One tip is not to shoot at the very widest setting just take it in a tad and it helps the distortion. You would need an off camera flash because the petal lens hood creates an ugly shadow in the image.

For budget I do have (don't tell anyone!) a screw on wide angle/fisheye adaptor, which screws on to the front of the lens, some movie cameras have them. I have used that in the past to get a photograph where nothing else would do the job. As Eric said, with such an image the viewer doesn't really notice a slight lack of sharpness due the the low quality of the lens.

This is a pic of my daughter Louise taken with my Nikkor 50mm f1.4 @ f1.4 NO flash! It was almost dark and as I remember the only light was a camp fire and a lantern.

Attachment: Screen Shot 2014-11-27 at 12.51.42.jpg (Downloaded 26 times)



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Posted by Robert: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 07:05 10th Post
Here is one with the 10-20 Sigma, I have tons of shots with it, this is just one which I came across just now.

A racing Berkly at Mallory park.

Attachment: Screen Shot 2014-11-27 at 12.57.50.jpg (Downloaded 24 times)



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Posted by Robert: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 07:13 11th Post
And another with the 10-20...

Taken from a very low angle.

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Posted by Waldo: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 08:24 12th Post
Awesome, you guys are fantastic!

ya I had looked around and a bunch of people were saying how great a 50mm lense is, as it's pretty close to what the human eye sees perspective wise.

The reason why I was looking for more "good" quality, is I have a screw on fish eye. It doesnt quite capture the look I want and have seen from others with an actual fish eye lense. but then I'm prolly picky

So on my list is a 50mm, 8mm (fish eye) and something wide angle (so 10-20mm)...

I need to look into a lense for landscapes too....but my 18-55 might suffice



Posted by Eric: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 08:36 13th Post
Waldo wrote:
Awesome, you guys are fantastic!

ya I had looked around and a bunch of people were saying how great a 50mm lense is, as it's pretty close to what the human eye sees perspective wise.

The reason why I was looking for more "good" quality, is I have a screw on fish eye. It doesnt quite capture the look I want and have seen from others with an actual fish eye lense. but then I'm prolly picky

So on my list is a 50mm, 8mm (fish eye) and something wide angle (so 10-20mm)...

I need to look into a lense for landscapes too....but my 18-55 might suffice

Bear in mind that 50mm on a DX camera will be 75mm equivalent because of the 1.5x multiplication factor. This is a good focal length for most portraits.
Another option is to go for a 60mm micro. This gives you a perfect 90mm portrait lens that also covers macro if you need to get in close.



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Posted by Eric: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 08:46 14th Post
On the latest nikon uk tv advert it shows a guy shooting through a glass ball .(like a fortunetellers crystal ball). He puts it on the floor or wall an photographs the image in the ball. Its obviously inverted and needs photoshop flipping but he had some crazy effects. He obviously nicked it from a fortune tellers tent....when she didnt forsee him coming.

:lol:



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Posted by richw: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 23:00 15th Post
Eric wrote:
Waldo wrote:
Awesome, you guys are fantastic!

ya I had looked around and a bunch of people were saying how great a 50mm lense is, as it's pretty close to what the human eye sees perspective wise.

The reason why I was looking for more "good" quality, is I have a screw on fish eye. It doesnt quite capture the look I want and have seen from others with an actual fish eye lense. but then I'm prolly picky

So on my list is a 50mm, 8mm (fish eye) and something wide angle (so 10-20mm)...

I need to look into a lense for landscapes too....but my 18-55 might suffice

Bear in mind that 50mm on a DX camera will be 75mm equivalent because of the 1.5x multiplication factor. This is a good focal length for most portraits.
Another option is to go for a 60mm micro. This gives you a perfect 90mm portrait lens that also covers macro if you need to get in close.

Nikon do a nice 35mm DX lens which will be the equivalent of 50mm on an Fx body. Might be worth looking at.



Posted by richw: Thu Nov 27th, 2014 23:02 16th Post
P.S. I second the 10-20mm suggestion, I love mine and even use it on the D3s now and again in crop mode.


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