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Falling out of love with Electronic Viewfinders

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Posted by Eric: Fri Aug 28th, 2015 17:38

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These mirrorless cameras are all right. They bring lighter weight, less bulky bodies...but switching from a bridge camera or even the Fuji X bodies to a Nikon DSLR and I am immediately struck by the clarity and natural look in the viewfinder.

My wife has been struggling with the diopter setting on her LUMIX. In her words "nothing seems sharp in the viewfinder". It's hard for me to help because her diopter settings are a lot more than my requirements! But spending time just analysing the clarity in the viewfinder has made me realise how much of a compromise we are making.

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Posted by jk: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 01:56

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There is definitely a difference in clarity hence the reason why some people really love the XPro1 as it has both optical and EVF.
I certainly agree that the DSLR has a fine bright viewfinder but it too has limitation e.g. Blackout during exposure and extra weight and noise.

I think that the next generation of EVF needs to have more dynamic range and faster refresh.

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Posted by amazing50: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 04:08

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Nikon also has the problem of light leaks through the viewfinder on long exposures.
I know they supply a black coin sized cover for most models but what a pain. :thumbsdown:

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Posted by amazing50: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 11:53

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Eric, checked my older Lumix and it adjusts OK if I ware corrective lenses, but not without them.

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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 12:05

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amazing50 wrote:
Eric, checked my older Lumix and it adjusts OK if I ware corrective lenses, but not without them.
I am fortunate that at the moment I don't need glasses for normal use...although the wife reckons I should use my computer glasses when driving so I can see the speedomter!!!

We managed to get the LUMIX adjusted adequately for the wife...its way out of focus for my eyes. But I think she too is coming up against the diminished quality of a digital viewfinder as she says it's still not "clear". But of course that might be anno domini.

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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 12:08

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jk wrote:
There is definitely a difference in clarity hence the reason why some people really love the XPro1 as it has both optical and EVF.
I certainly agree that the DSLR has a fine bright viewfinder but it too has limitation e.g. Blackout during exposure and extra weight and noise.

I think that the next generation of EVF needs to have more dynamic range and faster refresh.
Totally agree. It's rather reminiscent of looking back at 1990 TV programmes. The lack of clarity compared to today's HD programmes is astounding. Makes me wonder how we managed to watch these old TV programmes.

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Posted by Iain: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 12:15

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That is the one thing that I am struggling with, the IQ from the X-T1 is superb but the viewfinder..... i don't know.

Posted by Eric: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 10:23

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Iain wrote:
That is the one thing that I am struggling with, the IQ from the X-T1 is superb but the viewfinder..... i don't know.
There is no doubt that the best clearest viewfinder is the FX camera.
The DX camera viewfinder is not quite as large and bright as the FX.

Similarly there are a range of 'qualities' in digital viewfinders. The Lumix viewfinder is noticeably better than the Fuji, for example...especially in lower interior lighting situations.

But I have yet to see one that is good enough not to diminish the viewing experience.

I realise that in all things there is invariably a compromise or trade off. Weight, handling, control arrangement, ease of use to name a few.

The Fuji ticks most of the boxes (especially the XT with its improved firmware) but using it under incandescent light it like going back to the dark ages,

As JK says, the next development must be the quality of the viewfinder's representation of the scene.

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