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| Posted by Constable: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 11:32 | 1st Post |
| I'm frustrated that Nikon has not made (and shows no sign of making) anything like the fantastic Canon MP-E 65 macro lens. Almost to the extent of buying a Canon body just for this. And then the Nikon just turn around and give you results that blow your mind. These are from an early evening 10 minutes close to my house in an attempt to let the days stress relieve itself.    All D4 with 24-70. As soon as i saw these on screen I felt at one with the world (but I still want an MP-E 65!) Ed
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| Posted by TomOC: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 12:02 | 2nd Post |
| Ed- It's a fools game to try to match canon and nikon. Just as one gets an edge on the other, the whole scene is reversed. Nikon was the really big winner with the D1 - a full three years of monopoly. Then as canon got in the game, they creamed nikon with more great lenses. Then nikon came roaring back and probably has the edge now, especially if you consider the "tank" effect of indestructibility and the far far superior backwards compatibility. Truth of the matter is that they are both great and once you learn one system and get all the little accessories, there is not much reason to always look over your shoulder at the other. Everyone in this forum was moaning and groaning that nikon would never make a FF body - now canon fans are crying for something to compete with the D800 - it never ends  and that is good for US !
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| Posted by TomOC: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 12:02 | 3rd Post |
| By the way...those are some VERY nice shots !!!
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| Posted by blackfox: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 12:25 | 4th Post |
| looks good to me ed ,BTW glad i had those cards monday ,a rare bird, close in, perfect conditions and close to 1000 shots as below url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/31671466@N07/8452019035/]  [/url]his best side (EXPLORED) by black fox wildlife photography, on Flickr
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| Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 13:25 | 5th Post |
| Has that duck got a touch of red eye Jeff? BTW, Many years ago I listened to an interview with Patrick Lichfield about portrait photography on a radio 'phone in'. One caller asked about how to cure red eye, Patrick suggested a special pen to touch up the eyes. The caller was horrified "Wouldn't that be painful for the sitter?" asked the caller... Wonderful photographs Ed, when you chuck that old D4 away let me know!
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| Posted by Constable: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 14:23 | 6th Post |
| Hi all No not really in a Canon-Nikon cat fight, jus rather happy with the way everything just seemed to work perfectly together in the shoot. Jeff ... what is that? Some sort of a grebe, but not one that I have ever seen before. Ed
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| Posted by Constable: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 14:31 | 7th Post |
Sorry guys, one more from that session plus a gratuitous HDR image  Robert .. you are at the top of the list Ed
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| Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 14:46 | 8th Post |
Thanks Ed! 
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| Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 15:00 | 9th Post |
blackfox wrote:looks good to me ed ,BTW glad i had those cards monday ,a rare bird, close in, perfect conditions and close to 1000 shots Nice Slav Jeff. :thumbsup:
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| Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 15:04 | 10th Post |
Constable wrote:Hi all Looks like a Slavonian Grebe in winter plumage . Was watching them on Lac Annecy in Sept.
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| Posted by jk: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 15:15 | 11th Post |
| Are they part of the EU ? Bet that it is in UK to claim benefits!
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| Posted by blackfox: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 17:02 | 12th Post |
| yep eric got it right its a slavonian grebe ,there are only a few hundred in the whole u.k mostly in the very far north of scotland .my lad got one a few years ago locally ,but this is the first time i have ever seen one .and on a huge lake hard to spot as there very very small.to get it on float past at around 20 feet or so was the real triumph of the day ,the winter sun was the icing on the cake p.s the eye is that colour its not photoshopped another one url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/31671466@N07/8444409709/]  [/url]state sail past (EXPLORED) by black fox wildlife photography, on Flickr
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| Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 02:30 | 13th Post |
| Only pulling leg Jeff, excellent photographs and well done capturing a rare visitor. Being in the right place at the right time is key, I am surrounded by wildlife possibilities here but my real passion is not wildlife. I really enjoy the occasional sortie into the wild but don't have the passion to sustain it regularly. I have great respect for those who do. Well done for being in the right place at the right time, and realising what you are looking at isn't a Duck.
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| Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 03:35 | 14th Post |
| Ed, regarding the Canon lens. It is a macro that provides a large amount of extension as though there was a bellows attached. This allows it to provide 1:1 to x5 mag. Ideal for insects and the like. If you use the Nikon 60 or 105 or Sigma 150/180 you get 1:1 or better as well but I guess you want the ultra close up with no extra carry of extension tubes or bellows.
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| Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 03:36 | 15th Post |
| Nice shot Jeff. Did I understand correctly that you were in a floating hide on the water ? Very cold in that water!!!
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| Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 04:42 | 16th Post |
| This is the lens. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/mp-e-65.shtml Why not use an adaptor to fit it to the D4? Give Dr. Klause D Schmitt a call, I am sure he will be able to source something or will know where you can get one. I can PM you his eMail if you like Ed. With an adaptor on a Nikon mount you won't be able to get infinity but I doubt that will be a problem. It will also give you greater that 1:5 magnification...
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| Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 04:53 | 17th Post |
| There are Canon to Nikon lens adapters available on eBay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Canon-FD-Lens-to-Nikon-Mount-Adapter-Infinity-focus-With-correctional-glass-/261152645937?pt=UK_Photography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET&hash=item3ccde92331 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Macro-Canon-EF-EFS-lens-to-Nikon-SLR-DSLR-F-camera-mount-adapter-ring-converter-/290706991685?pt=UK_Photography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET&hash=item43af7caa45
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| Posted by blackfox: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 05:47 | 18th Post |
jk wrote:Nice shot Jeff. no no no john boy ,well past those type shenagins ,i did however use my bulk to squeeze into some bushes at lake level and get down on my knees on the soggy ground to get some of the shots ,(and cheers i have now realised why my knee has been aching all week ) 
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| Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 06:13 | 19th Post |
| NOT the one with glass in!!! Or smash it out, it's low quality stuff to correct for infinity, rubbish. In this case Infinity not needed. The other one looks OK. I suppose I have shot myself in the foot here, if Ed does get one and the Canon MP-E 65 lens, he won't be tossing the D4 in the garbage. 
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| Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:06 | 20th Post |
| This is an option for Jeff, instead of lying in the mud? Save his old knees. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21393173
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 08:25 | 21st Post |
| Really appreciate you sacrificing your knees to get that shot Jeff. Very well done.
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| Posted by Constable: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 08:56 | 22nd Post |
| Thanks guys. Sorry for the silence .. I'm on my way to the airport. Sorry to disappoint Robert, although he didn't shoot himself in the foot. Thise Canon-Nikon adaptors are not very good .. at least the ones with glass in are really C**p. The best solution I have found is an achromatic 3x on my sigma 150. The 10x are horrible, but the 3x is OK. The Canon 500D has a role to play as well. Ed
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:30 | 23rd Post |
Constable wrote:Thanks guys. Sorry for the silence .. I'm on my way to the airport. Safe trip Ed, hope you are going somewhere warmer.
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| Posted by Constable: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:47 | 24th Post |
| Pretoria for two days! Hot but monsoon season. Ed
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:52 | 25th Post |
Constable wrote:Pretoria for two days! Hot but monsoon season. What camera are you taking?
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| Posted by Constable: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 10:04 | 26th Post |
| Fuji xe1 with 18-55 ... Hand luggage only so minimum kit
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 10:07 | 27th Post |
Constable wrote:Fuji xe1 with 18-55 ... Hand luggage only so minimum kit Hope you share your experience with xe1 and lens combo when you return. Stay dry.
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| Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 11:52 | 28th Post |
Constable wrote: Fuji xe1 with 18-55 ... Hand luggage only so minimum kitPlenty good enough for anything except for animal safari shooting or sports!
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