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| Posted by jk: Tue Aug 6th, 2013 04:05 | 1st Post |
| I know that there a couple of D600 users amongst our group but it seems that the D600 gets little mention or feedback here. So are you a D600 user ? What are the pros/cons of it ?
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Aug 10th, 2013 11:03 | 2nd Post |
| I have one Jonathan. It is my only DSLR. Always wanted a full frame DSLR and this fit the bill for my budget and my photography style. Got it when first released and experienced the oil spot issue. Sent to Nikon repair and a week later got it back with a new shutter mechanism and a fully cleaned camera. No issues since. I have finally settled on my kit and have no desire to get anything else. I use the D600, Nikon 24-70mm lens, Nikon 70-200mm f/4 lens, a Nikon 85mm lens and a teleconverter if I need some reach. I find the photos to be as good as I can produce and I travel with this kit. I find myself shooting more jpegs than ever before and going RAW only when it is very important or the lighting sucks. The D600 is not for everyone. Never having had a "pro" level camera I just can't compare it to the D800 or D4 but then my wallet won't allow me to get more than I have. Have to say that I am very happy with my setup and spend more time taking pics than looking at web sites anymore. Not sure this helps.
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| Posted by jk: Sat Aug 10th, 2013 17:28 | 3rd Post |
| Hi Gary, Thanks for posting your perspective on this. I feel that my D800 is overkill for my needs and whilst the D3S and D3 still provide more than enough quality pixels for most stuff there are the odd occasion where I feel limited. 12 ==> 36MP is a big leap so the 24MP option seems more satisfactory for me. One of my irks with the D600 is the lack of the 10 pin interface that I have so many accessories for. I dont think that the USB interface in the D600 is so flexible.
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sun Aug 11th, 2013 07:25 | 4th Post |
| I have seen you bring up the 10 pin issue several times so this body may not suit you in the long run. Always something isn't it? Fortunately, I don't have the requirement for a 10 pin setup. I have found using the D600 and any lens I have I no longer do nearly as much post processing of the images. This is true in jpeg and RAW. If you were closer I would lend it to you for a week or so. Leaving in 2 days for a trip to Europe (Netherlands, Germany, France, Luxembourg, and Switzerland) will be taking this kit along with my Fuji X20 which is an amazing little camera. Good luck in your quest for the perfect camera. If you have any questions just ask.
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| Posted by blackfox: Sun Aug 11th, 2013 10:19 | 5th Post |
| i,ll give you a wave from the back garden as you pass overhead gary LOL
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sun Aug 11th, 2013 10:59 | 6th Post |
blackfox wrote:i,ll give you a wave from the back garden as you pass overhead gary LOL I'll be waving! Get your D7100 and your 300mm ready I expect you to capture me waving in mid air. 
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| Posted by jk: Sun Aug 11th, 2013 15:35 | 7th Post |
Squarerigger wrote:I have seen you bring up the 10 pin issue several times so this body may not suit you in the long run. Always something isn't it? Fortunately, I don't have the requirement for a 10 pin setup. Have a good trip Gary. I hope it all goes well and you have a fabulous holiday. If Nikon dont pull their finger out an announce the D400 soon then I will go for the D600 anyway and see how it works for me.
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| Posted by amazing50: Sun Aug 18th, 2013 18:19 | 8th Post |
| I purchased a D600 in early May as my first full frame digital. Having owned the D1,D2X,D5000, & D5100.I find the D600 a "lunch bag letdown". Nothing drastic yet, just a lot of annoying little things that make me glad I kept my D5100. Wouldn't recommend purchasing it unless you have a high tolerance to pain and a very mild temperament.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Aug 19th, 2013 04:02 | 9th Post |
| Amazing50. I'd be interested to hear in detail what you dont like about the D600. I have the D800 and it is a fine camera but most of the time I dont want 36MP and a 20-24MP camera is better suited to my needs. The D600 worries me as it is a small camera body design e.g. like a D3100 or D7000 and I have large hands. My D3S is perfect but is a heavy beast.
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| Posted by richw: Mon Aug 19th, 2013 05:03 | 10th Post |
jk wrote:My D3S is perfect but is a heavy beast. 
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| Posted by jk: Mon Aug 19th, 2013 08:03 | 11th Post |
richw wrote:jk wrote: I'm almost tempted by a D3X as it is 24MP but the new sensors have better support electronics so it makes sense to go that way if I want 24MP. Also I think a 24MP D400 would be very nice.
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| Posted by amazing50: Mon Aug 19th, 2013 16:35 | 12th Post |
jk wrote: Amazing50. I'd be interested to hear in detail what you dont like about the D600. Is it relay worth $2000 US to get 30%less pixels? Wouldn't it be easier to set the D800 at Normal Jpg. or buy a 64gb data card if you shoot raw and reduce the size in post processing? There is a battery grip available from Nikon or aftermarket for about $100 US with extra batteries from eBay, which I purchased and it works just fine. My battery idle overuse complaint below comes from all types including AA batteries. Now for some detail on what I don't like. I'm not relay a person who complains a lot and there are many features on the D600 that are quite good. Many of the annoyances are software related and could be improved with a firmware update. There are features that I rarely use, like in camera editing, filters sharpening or anything that can't be undone later. No articulating LCD, why won't Nikon put this highly useful feature on their top line cameras? No histogram in live view option, can only be brought up in picture review. Short battery life when turned off, seems OK when out shooting for a day. Too many short timer offs. No choice for longer times when using remote shutter at a bird feeder etc. Mode dial lock releases, both unnecessary and annoying. Jumps back to default settings too easily, don't know why, every so often it resets to normal jpgs. with no raw. Camera menus are clumsy and there are 58 symbols used although the "My Menu" lets you set up commonly needed items. Higher ISO settings won't show on XMF data, a common complaint on Nikons as they use "Hi 2" instead of a number. No Copyright Symbol in the pix info settings, once you have 58, what's one more? No internal Wifi or GPS which is standard on many lower priced cameras. Cords and plugs and chargers not compatible with other current Nikon Products. No 1920x1080 60p movie mode.
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| Posted by jk: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 02:41 | 13th Post |
amazing50 wrote:No articulating LCD, why won't Nikon put this highly useful feature on their top line cameras?I can manage most of those items but there are a few worries there. These are my worries from your list.... - Short battery life when turned off, seems OK when out shooting for a day. - Very bad news for me. - Too many short timer offs. No choice for longer times when using remote shutter at a bird feeder etc. - This is really annoying as they should have more options, and a No time out option. - Jumps back to default settings too easily, don't know why, every so often it resets to normal jpgs. with no raw. - OMG, horrible!!!. - Camera menus are clumsy and there are 58 symbols used - Annoying - No Copyright Symbol in the pix info settings, once you have 58, what's one more? - Use this as it saves me in my post processing for pictures I sell but is not a huge deal just an annoyance. - No 10 pin cord instead have a funny USB like (but not USB) connector. - I do have a GPS unit that has exchangeable leads so this doesnt worry me too much but it would be nice to also trigger the camera using my other electronic devices e.g. PocketWizards.
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 04:57 | 14th Post |
| My main reasons for buying a D600 would be image quality in a lighter body. FX sensors have traditionally meant better IQ than their corresponding DX models. So does the D600 produce better images than the D5200, D7100 or whater its DX equivalent is? Obviously, if there are ergonomic and functionality issues they may influence that thinking. What concerns me most in the 'quest for a lightweight body' is that lightweight lenses dont really maximise the body's potential. I end up taking heavier lenses of known quality... which sort of defeats, or at least reduces, the advantage of a lighter body. I am beginning to wonder if rather than buying a new camera body, I should pay to join a gym and build back up my ageing neck, shoulder and arm muscles to 'D3 daylong use' calibre. 
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| Posted by jk: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 05:21 | 15th Post |
| Definitely agree with that thought Eric. The D600 is very tempting as it is so much lighter and is same size as a D7000.
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| Posted by amazing50: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 09:46 | 16th Post |
Eric wrote: My main reasons for buying a D600 would be image quality in a lighter body. FX sensors have traditionally meant better IQ than their corresponding DX models. So does the D600 produce better images than the D5200, D7100 or whater its DX equivalent is? There is a quality advantage with larger pixels, how much, I don't know. The downside to all the high pixel sensors is defraction. On the D600 this comes into play at f8 and above so a minimum f6.3 should be used. The other thing that comes up is that some older FX lenses don't have enough resolution for the sensor. Nikon has a list of the recommended lenses for the D600 & D800. Also minor camera shake during the high speed scan of the sensor will cause blur so that the old rule of 1/mm of the lens for minimum shutter speed is no longer valid, might be with VR on.
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 14:59 | 17th Post |
amazing50 wrote:Eric wrote:My main reasons for buying a D600 would be image quality in a lighter body. FX sensors have traditionally meant better IQ than their corresponding DX models. So does the D600 produce better images than the D5200, D7100 or whater its DX equivalent is? Don't understand ...did you mean maximum? Either way that sounds a bit restrictive.
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| Posted by blackfox: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 17:28 | 18th Post |
| Also minor camera shake during the high speed scan of the sensor will cause blur so that the old rule of 1/mm of the lens for minimum shutter speed is no longer valid, might be with VR on. can't quite get my head round this statement ,surely this would also apply the to the d7100 ,the only time it comes into effect that i have so far found is in allowing to take into account a higher apparent focal length in 1.6 crop factor mode ????
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 18:49 | 19th Post |
blackfox wrote:Also minor camera shake during the high speed scan of the sensor will cause blur so that the old rule of 1/mm of the lens for minimum shutter speed is no longer valid, might be with VR on. It WAS a fact that the higher the pixel density, the more precise your technique needed to be ....especially relating to handheld shutter speeds. I had to increase shutter speed on the D2X by at least a stop to match the D1X performance. Whether this 'small pixel' impact still applies, is the question. Nikon must have done something to improve small pixel performance because ALL their new releases have pixel densities greater than the D2X. But with this improvement does the observation...."the less packed the pixels, the better" ...still apply? If so, you would expect the D4 to yield better IQ than a D800 on the same settings ....when hand held. And hence my original post ....asking if the D600 with its less packed pixels was any better than the denser D7000/7100/5200 models.
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| Posted by Robert: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 00:52 | 20th Post |
Eric wrote:
As far as the D800 is concerned I would say the small pixel still has an adverse effect on {ultimate) sharpness WHEN HAND HELD. I base this on the stress Nikon put on the need for solid tripod and the very best glass, even providing a list of suitable lenses to obtain the full benefits of the sensor. This can be read in the brochure to be found on-line and presumably the printed version. It was the first thing I looked at when the D800 was introduced. Any other bodies 'enjoying' similar high pixel densities (small pixels) must be similarly compromised. What makes this ridiculous in my eyes is that very few users will EVER NEED this ultra high definition. It will only ever be seen by the final viewer with huge prints or tiny crops. There is almost no advantage to the end product. I have printed cropped hand held photographs of flowers over 3 ft across the diagonal from my 10Mp D200 which knock viewers over with the clarity and detail. Why spend all that money for nothing??? I greatly appreciate amazing50's post pointing out his list of drawbacks of the D600, some of them would drive me mad. I had penciled a D600 into my mental list of future purchases, it's now erased and replaced by my original choice, a used D3. Mass doesn't bother me too much, yet and when it does Michael will act as caddy I am sure (with a promise of large chocolate cream cakes afterwards! LOL).
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| Posted by amazing50: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 01:31 | 21st Post |
Eric wrote: amazing50 wrote:Defraction is caused by two things, a small f stop and sensor or film resolution. Old low resolution film in plate cameras would allow f64 exposures with no defraction and a great depth of field, but improved higher resolution fined grain films moved this back to f22 or f16. Now with higher pixel counts it's pushed back even further to f6.3. Doesn't mean you can't shoot at f16 with a D600, just that the pix won't be as sharp, for pixel peepers, as if you took the same shot at f6.3.
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| Posted by jk: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 02:14 | 22nd Post |
| Amazing50, I have just been reading the D600 manual. (I must be bored!!). There is a image comment field that is present. Not the same as the Copyright field but you can use that instead. The other issues you mentioned all apply. Biggest problem that I see is the lack of the 10 pin interface.
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| Posted by blackfox: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 06:07 | 23rd Post |
| comments here sort of follow my train of thoughts ,i,m happy with the d7100 its close ups and near distance performance is superb,however its distance performance seems lacking or is it just me trying to push it to the limits ,i somehow miss my old d300s which looked ,felt and performed "right" ,at the time of purchasing the 7100 i have to admit i was in a quandary and very nearly bought a canon 1Dmkiii as i have the mkii and although only 8mp its a super performer . the only real thing that kept me with nikon is the versatility of the 300mm f4 lens and t/c's that canon cant match imho .we all strive for perfection but obviously have to keep it restrained to available funds ,wish i was 21 again sometimes . 
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 11:35 | 24th Post |
Robert wrote: Eric wrote:It was a rhetorical question Robert, as I am sure you realised. Like you I believe there will be a difference. In fact, if you look at some of the photos in this months Nikon pro magazine there are some examples using the D4 and the D800. I deliberately tried to guess the camera from the image. And on every occasion got them the wrong way round!!! That could be my eyes LOL. But I believe it showed that, 'in the field' without a tripod, the D800 doesnt outperform the D4. Same old story.  Personally I find the D3 more than adequate for my photography (including commercial work!). The only disadvantage comes from its bulk and weight...especially when combined with pro glass. This combination is not only unwieldy when walking about casually, but a more obvious target (even with its advanced years) for someone who has designs on taking it. I invariably carry both colour and IR bodies with me when on excursions adding further to the weight and value on my person. Last year, I left my camera back on the verandah of a mountain cafe and drove 11 miles along a ridge road before I realised. I did the return journey along the narrow, hairpin strewn road, faster than a F1 driver (despite Jan's screams and thumps LOL) to recover the bag...containing £6500 of equipment. Thats why I WANT the more modestly valued Fuji to work for me. Its images are as good as the D3...its just its ergonomics and tardiness for action shots that let it down a bit. So...getting back to the original point of the thread. Despite potential issues with the D600 identified by Amazing50s list, I would still consider the body IF it gave D3/Fuji images...with good consumer lenses. Its all about compromise when it comes to equipment payload/value Vs functionality Vs IQ.
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| Posted by amazing50: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 20:51 | 25th Post |
| This link gives a review of lenses suitable for the D600. It might be helpful if you are considering a purchase. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/20/dxomark-investigates-lenses-for-the-nikon-d600
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| Posted by blackfox: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 03:16 | 26th Post |
| just had a quick look through that and its only a test at the end of the day not a ,this is what to use list. there are some serious omissions in there list to
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| Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 04:53 | 27th Post |
amazing50 wrote: Eric wrote:Hiamazing50 wrote:Defraction is caused by two things, a small f stop and sensor or film resolution. Old low resolution film in plate cameras would allow f64 exposures with no defraction and a great depth of field, but improved higher resolution fined grain films moved this back to f22 or f16. Now with higher pixel counts it's pushed back even further to f6.3. Doesn't mean you can't shoot at f16 with a D600, just that the pix won't be as sharp, for pixel peepers, as if you took the same shot at f6.3. I understand the phenomena, just confused that you said the issue 'came into play at f8 and above' ...and then said 'a minimum of f6.3 should be used'. Guess that is a safety margin? Aside from my interpretation of the wording, I find this issue a tad hard to wrestle with. (grammar!) Like many, I have for years shot film and digital being aware that lens optimum performance, though varying, invariably peaked around f8 - f11. But the subject dictated the aperture choice, not the ability of the lens or (now) the digital sensor to deliver optimum 'results' (however that is defined). If I am shooting close to a 'deep' subject, I may have to use f16 to get the desired dof. I dont say "oh hang on... the lens won't be at its best, so I better change my shooting position" or accept a dof that I didnt want. I suppose there are people out there, the pixel peepers you mention, who feel this sort of analysis is of merit. Analogous to hifi people telling me my speakers hiss when I just listen to the music. Personally, the day someone rejects my images due to small aperture artefacts, has yet to come along. It will be an interesting day if it does. LOL
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| Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 05:26 | 28th Post |
blackfox wrote: just had a quick look through that and its only a test at the end of the day not a ,this is what to use list. I am obviously in a bolshi mood today. LOL As you say, DXO only test clinically, not in the field. They rave about the superb 14-24 Nikon. It is very nice. But use it in low angled/oblique light, add in some reflection off bright surfaces anywhere infront or to the side of the lens and its an absolute PIG for flare. No matter how good it might be optically under 'correct' and sympathetic lighting, the image quality can be shot to pieces by flare. I shoot large stainless machinery in a clients workshop. They are often 'fixed' where they were built, so I cant move them (if i was strong enough!) to avoid spurious light sources in shot. The images are going to be 'cut out' to remove unsightly backgrounds but with the 14-24 (often needed for the subject size and space limitations) it can be extraordinarily difficult to exclude flare sources. I end up throwing dark sheets all over the place (these machines are too big for background paper or cloths ) I had to close the factory roller shutter doors in +30ºC heat last week because outside lighting/reflections were creeping into the side of the domed lens. The workforce were not happy, so I had to work really fast. LOL
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| Posted by amazing50: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 10:34 | 29th Post |
| I am thinking of a field test for this defraction question. I have a Zeiss S-Planar 120mm F5.6-32 with a Hasselblad C mount and an adaptor to the D600. With the camera on a tripod ISO 100 and set to liveview, to avoid mirror shake, and arpeture preferred, a series of 5 exposures will be taken, one at each f stop using fine jpg. and raw mode, with the camera settings to their least enhancement mode. I would appreciate some input on this test design and some ideas about what type of scenes, backgrounds etc. might be defraction prone as this high quality medium format lens in itself shouldn't be a problem, meaning any degradation of the images should be a result of sensor pixel density.
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| Posted by Robert: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 11:46 | 30th Post |
| Please may I suggest also alongside this to run a similar test with a good standard lens, say a 50mm (f1.8?) fixed focal length by way of a control and for comparison?
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| Posted by amazing50: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 14:53 | 31st Post |
| Good idea Robert. Would you suggest I use the 50mm without moving the tripod or move it closer to approximate the same coverage as the 120mm?
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| Posted by Robert: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 15:27 | 32nd Post |
| Not sure really, probably arguable either way, I think I would simply leave the camera locked up on the tripod and expose at the same apertures again with the second lens. I only suggested it to give some sort of comparison really with what is considered to be a reasonably good middle of the road lens if you see what I mean. If the planar is outstanding across the board, the 50 might tell a different story over the range of apertures.
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| Posted by jk: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 17:02 | 33rd Post |
| Have to say that ultimately as Eric says it is about the picture not whether or not you are getting the ultimate sharpness from the lens. I doubt many people could visually spot the difference anyway!!
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| Posted by Peter LO: Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 03:10 | 34th Post |
| Back to JK's original question... As one of the earliest D600 users here I was irritated much by the dust/oil issue until I scratched the LPF during cleaning in June. Unlike previous sensors, the LPF used in D600 cannot be replaced alone, so the entire sensor was replaced instead (a paid service!). To eradicate the dust/oil problem, Nikon also replaced the shutter unit free of charge.
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| Posted by jk: Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 03:26 | 35th Post |
| Eric said: "Thats why I WANT the more modestly valued Fuji to work for me. Its images are as good as the D3...its just its ergonomics and tardiness for action shots that let it down a bit." It was for this reason and the low weight that I decided to invest in the Fuji XPro1. The quality of image I get is every bit as good as my D3S but it weighs with lens just 1kg compared to twice that for the equivalent Nikon kit. When you are walking or scrambling on rough paths the extra weight and bulk of the Nikons is a distinct disadvantage. That said for action photography (sports and dance) the Nikon wins hands down! Right tools for the job.
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| Posted by jk: Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 03:33 | 36th Post |
Peter LO wrote:Back to JK's original question... Hmmm. Not sure I like that but at least they have sorted the oil/dust problem so frequent cleaning is less necessary. Peter sent me some early images from his D600 and they are very good and with the small size of the camera I will probably be tempted to release my D3 or D700 probably the D700, so the D600 will work with the D3S and D3.
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| Posted by amazing50: Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 11:33 | 37th Post |
| jk I came across this Nikon 10 pin to MC-DC2 adaptor for $10 US which might ease some concerns about the D600 being compatable with other 10 pin devices. This seller has various configurations and I'm ordering one for my MC-36 remote timer/cable release ;~) http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-MC-DC2-jack-to-MC-30-plug-Remote-Convert-Adapter-/250725746205?pt=Camera_Camcorder_Remotes&hash=item3a606b461d#ht_5875wt_1162
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| Posted by jk: Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 12:08 | 38th Post |
amazing50 wrote:jk I came across this Nikon 10 pin to MC-DC2 adaptor for $10 US which might ease some concerns about the D600 being compatable with other 10 pin devices. This seller has various configurations and I'm ordering one for my MC-36 remote timer/cable release ;~) Thanks. I had a look at that cable but I think the polarity of the socket is wrong for my accessories but it lead me to this cable which looks good. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shutter-Remote-Terminal-Convert-Adapter-Cord-MC30F-DC2M-/330495700663?pt=Camera_Camcorder_Remotes&hash=item4cf3142eb7 Thanks very much. I have ordered one to test on my friends D7000.
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| Posted by amazing50: Sat Aug 24th, 2013 20:32 | 39th Post |
| jk I ordered the same one that you did. We'll have to see how fast the shippins is.
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| Posted by jk: Sun Aug 25th, 2013 03:14 | 40th Post |
amazing50 wrote:jk I ordered the same one that you did. We'll have to see how fast the shippins is.:thumbsup: HK to Spain usually takes 2-4 weeks.
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| Posted by amazing50: Sun Aug 25th, 2013 23:31 | 41st Post |
| I think I've solved the D600's high battery use when turned off. Before sending it in to Nikon, I wanted some proper numbers to give them, so I removed the external battery pack and put the freshly charged original battery into the camera. After 24 hours it was still at 97%, which points to the external battery pack as the problem. Don't know why yet, but it will be removed for idle time.
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Aug 26th, 2013 02:06 | 42nd Post |
| Have some recollection of this with a D200 external battery pack, I think it was either Jan from Scotland or Arctic Rick who suffered the issue, I think who ever it was tried two with similar results.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Aug 26th, 2013 02:20 | 43rd Post |
| I think you are correct Robert. I remember this discussion about the battery life on the D200.
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| Posted by Peter LO: Mon Aug 26th, 2013 03:48 | 44th Post |
| For long exposure, consider the car key-sized remote shutter release (<USD 15) as well as there's no cable to mess with during exposure.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Sep 9th, 2013 13:34 | 45th Post |
| OK..... Pulled the trigger. The D600 should be delivered to the house in the UK this week with any luck.
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| Posted by richw: Mon Sep 9th, 2013 19:54 | 46th Post |
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| Posted by jk: Thu Sep 12th, 2013 17:14 | 47th Post |
| Very interesting camera. The D600 design is more of a D7100 that is FX rather than a D800 with less MPs. I knew the specifications said it had less MPs and there was no 10pin socket but apart from that it is smaller and lighter than my D700 or D800 and provides what looks like a very nice image. I hope that I will get a chance to really test it here in UK (weather permitting - it has been grey skies and rain today) in the next few weeks.
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| Posted by Judith: Fri Sep 13th, 2013 19:44 | 48th Post |
| Aww Jonathan, the camera arrived just in time for my birthday!!! Just post it up to me in Scotland and I'll make sure it gets a good test drive. Been nice and sunny here for that last few days!
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| Posted by jk: Sat Sep 14th, 2013 14:01 | 49th Post |
| Happy Birthday for your next. Well I would have put it in the post to you Judith but it didnt like the prospect of going North. It will be flying south to warmer climes as soon as I get my passport back. Went out today to the coast as it is the first sunny day in the last five days. I'm off to Westonbirt Arboretum to do some photos of the trees there with Robert on Monday, weather permitting, otherwise we will watch the rain fall from the pub.
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| Posted by Judith: Sat Sep 14th, 2013 16:44 | 50th Post |
| *sniffs* :praying2:
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| Posted by jk: Sun Sep 15th, 2013 04:59 | 51st Post |
| I'll let you have a D70 when you get back to Spain.
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| Posted by Judith: Sun Sep 15th, 2013 12:57 | 52nd Post |
Pffft!!!  Oh, hang on, did you mean to type D700?
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| Posted by jk: Sun Sep 15th, 2013 16:05 | 53rd Post |
| Well if you want to give me money for the D700 then probably! Very low use and with a extra battery pack. You will need to come back to Spain to collect it.
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| Posted by Judith: Mon Sep 16th, 2013 12:04 | 54th Post |
| Lol. I'd need to take out a gym membership to be able to lift it!! I'm still holding out hope for a D400.
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| Posted by blackfox: Mon Sep 16th, 2013 16:50 | 55th Post |
| oops just seen on nikon rumors the d600 has been discontinued stateside or de-listed as they call it
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| Posted by jk: Mon Sep 16th, 2013 17:13 | 56th Post |
| Yes there is meant to be a D610 coming soon. They have de-listed it which means deals can sell at whatever price to reduce stocks. Usually means a new model is just around the corner. No problem. The new D610 is the same as the D600 but has fixed the issues of the oil leak onto sensor that happened for the early D600 units. No evidence of oil on my images. The release of the D610 is a way of burying the bad news on the D600.
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| Posted by amazing50: Mon Sep 16th, 2013 20:41 | 57th Post |
| Hopefully they will fix up the firmware.
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| Posted by jk: Tue Sep 17th, 2013 13:49 | 58th Post |
| One item I find annoying is the OK button on the command dial is not programmable. In playback mode the OK button has a default action of taking you into DLighting which must be the most useless piece of in-camera software. I wish we could upload/delete applets to/from the camera.
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| Posted by jk: Tue Sep 17th, 2013 15:46 | 59th Post |
| Very happy with the output from the D600. Images seem quite saturated. Next step is to test at high ISO 3200/6400 with my flamenco shots. Attachment: D600-1-0499.jpg (Downloaded 16 times)
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 17th, 2013 16:32 | 60th Post |
jk wrote:Very happy with the output from the D600. The answer I am waiting for is ..... Fuji or D600
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| Posted by jk: Tue Sep 17th, 2013 17:31 | 61st Post |
| For fast AF performance then it has to be the Nikon. If you are doing landscape and low action stuff then the Fuji is probably just as good. I need to do a side by side and process both through Capture Pro. My comment about saturation being higher that previous Nikon may be due to it being processed through AfterShot Pro. When I get back to Spain I will batch process the D600 NEFs through Catpture Pro and ASP and compare outputs. Then I'll run a side by side with the Fuji XE1 v. D600.
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| Posted by Eric: Sat Sep 21st, 2013 12:08 | 62nd Post |
| I wonder why the D600 is so expensive when compared to the D800? Given that it's more of a consumer FX model I would have expected it to be closer to the DX D7000/7100. If there is a D610 on the way, it's even more puzzling.
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| Posted by jk: Sat Sep 21st, 2013 13:10 | 63rd Post |
| The D800 is currently selling for £1950 compared with the D600 at £1350. I think that the D600 is cheap as an entry level FX camera. Since I returned to Spain last night, today I have been testing with my various attachments and accessories and find that the stuff all works fine. The lead I bought from HK works fine for remotely firing the shutter but does not provide sufficient live connections for the GPS but that is no problem. I have a very nice adapter that I made a while ago that allows the 10pin to be 'fully' connected to other devices using the Nikon 10 pin connector (male or female) or a simple RS232 female/male plug. So now I need to get a Nikon connector cable for the D90/D7000/7100/600 and cannibalise it to work as an adapter for GPS using 10pin or RS232 connector.
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