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Graham Whistler
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I have just replaced my little Sony RX100 M2 that was far too small and as a serious DSLR user I could not get to grips with holding and composing pictures, with the new larger Sony DSC-RX10 bridge camera. The test picture attached is of Titchfield Abbey my local test subject. I am amazed with the quality of the electronic viewfinder and it works with the ease of a high quality DSLR, but much smaller and very suitable for overseas air travel when the size of my bag full of Nikon D800 and lenses would get in the way of a family holiday! The Zeiss 35mm equivalent 24-200mm f2.8 lens is very sharp and with Exmor CMOS 20.9 MP chip and built in steady shot there is no need for interchangable lenses. It has pro level weather sealing and all shooting options any serious photographer could need. The full HD AVCHD Movie mode also is easy to use with good sound and the sready shot gives well usable movie with hand holding. The auto focus and electronic zoom are also very good for movie! Comparing first test results with pix from my D300 I would say they are as good if not better and exhibition quality A3 plus prints are no problem. On Monday we are off to Amsterdam for a few day so I will report back with more info when I get back. (Another D800 friend of mine also has one and is so pleased with it talked me into getting one.) Attachment: Abbey0079S.jpg (Downloaded 113 times) |
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Eric
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Once you step outside of the Nikon/Canon systems world you are likely to find some excellent cameras. The Fuji X system is rapidly becoming my choice for most non commercial work. ( customers still need reassuring with a big DSLR on a tripod. LOL) Look forward to seeing more examples. |
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Graham Whistler
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I will still make plenty of use of the D800, horses for courses! This pix with the little Sony shows how good the dynamic range is. Attachment: Abbey0085S.jpg (Downloaded 109 times) |
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amazing50
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Graham, I was checking out your camera and came across a Nikon P520 on sale as a dealer demo model. Checked it out and it has almost everything I want in a travel camera such as GPS, WiFi, 20 sec voice memo record, lots of zoom - 24-1000 etc. It didn't even put much of a dint my credit card ;~). It's been a bit of fun setting it up and trying all the settings. Hi ISO is poor but it can take a series of night pix and combine them for a sharper effect. Low ISO quality is quite good. Printed a 16x20 and was pleased. |
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jk
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I have the Nikon P510 which produces very good images for the small sensor size. |
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amazing50
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The P510 is almost identical to the P520, Just a few pixels difference, probably not enough to notice in prints. |
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amazing50
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The zoom and anti vibration seem to work well but I find it slow focusing and saving shots. The squirrel was a bit further than 10m at 1/150sec handheld. The full size pic is quite sharp. Attachment: P520 Size comparison_cr2_cr.jpg (Downloaded 93 times) |
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Graham Whistler
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Just had 7 days holiday in Amsterdam and the Sony did all I wanted pixs of the flowers were very sharp colour good and well up to Nikon D300 standard. Also shot some AVCHD movie with it and steady cam works well and even sound from the little camera works well. There is no way I would turn up for a client to do a pro job with it. For serious photography will always use my D800 but for holiday pix you need a much smaller camera that is going to produce a good quality A3 print for use at the local camera club. The DX10 has a very good Zeiss 24-200 f2.8 lens lens and the results are hard to fault. It worries me a bit posting this on a Nikon forum! Attachment: Amsterdam0147.jpg (Downloaded 90 times) |
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jk
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No worries about the Sony photos. Nikon use Sony made sensors! |
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Graham Whistler
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It also is good and sharp for macro work! Attachment: Amsterdam0109.jpg (Downloaded 89 times) |
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amazing50
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Flying over Sunday to Nuremberg via Amsterdam. Shooting an Al Di Meola (Jazz) concert in Nuremberg and then going to Valencia for a short stay. Since my D600 is still in for a new shutter I'll be trying out the Coolpix p520 as a travel camera. Will probably be using a Panasonic GH4 with 4K for the shoot. |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:It also is good and sharp for macro work! That's a lovely sharp image, Graham. Got me thinking again about this whole Nikon alternatives subject. These type of 'all in one' cameras were considered inferior to DSLRs once upon a time. But the quality bar has now been seriously lifted! |
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Graham Whistler
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Eric I tried several during last year and traded them all back, this one is streets above all that I tried. It has simple controls and can be used just like a DSLR on M S A or P on any settings you need. ISO can be set or Auto and colour bal like -wise, but to date auto works fine on out doors. You can not fault the lens sharpness and I now think results are even better than I was getting with my D300 with 18-200 AFS my old well tried compact travel choice.Size is reduced but not by so much that you can not hold it or compose a picture. The eye level viewfinder is sharp and works well. |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:Eric I tried several during last year and traded them all back, this one is streets above all that I tried. It has simple controls and can be used just like a DSLR on M S A or P on any settings you need. ISO can be set or Auto and colour bal like -wise, but to date auto works fine on out doors. You can not fault the lens sharpness and I now think results are even better than I was getting with my D300 with 18-200 AFS my old well tried compact travel choice.Size is reduced but not by so much that you can not hold it or compose a picture. The eye level viewfinder is sharp and works well. My wife has been on at me to get such a camera so she can use it as well. She doesn't 'get on' with the Fuji system. But I am loving the new Fuji XT. Just got a shot of a Nightingale singing! These elusive critters sing from deep in the bushes so you normally can't snap them. But this chap saw me, flew to a higher perch gave a couple of trills before flying off. But the Fuji grabbed him in mid trill. So it will be hard to part with this system as a travel kit ...especially after converting the XE body to IR, to share the lenses. |
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jk
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Eric wrote:Graham Whistler wrote: Glad you are enjoying the XT1. |
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Graham Whistler
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The Sony RX10 is also amazing good in poor avail;able light. This pix in the Beaulieu Motor Museum was in quite dull lighting so I used 1600 ISU. Lens at 8.8mm (as 35mm 24mm) fully wide hand held 1/125sec f6.3. Attachment: Beauulieu0073.jpg (Downloaded 55 times) |
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Graham Whistler
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Another close-up from our garden this time. Depth of field is great with lens at 25mm (69mm in 35mm) 1/160 f5.6 ISO 400 hand held. Shots like this are easy! Attachment: Poppy0025s.jpg (Downloaded 55 times) |
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jk
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Very nice Graham. But you forget that the cameras are all pretty good the real variable is the operator. Not all of us are as skilled, talented or experienced as you are.  |
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Graham Whistler
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Thanks but I do think Nikon need to find a camera like this too or it will be short of money soon to develop a D400 or more important a D4X? |
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jk
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I think the new D4S lacks much new to tempt people from canon to Nikon or for a Nikon user to upgrade. I have been analysing the situation ever since the D800 has been in my hands. I dont need more MP than 24MP, the D800 with 36MP is fine if you are trying to not purchase a medium format upgrade such as the Pentax 645, Hasselblad H5, Leica S2, etc. But I dont personally need that. The D600/610 are perfect as they are 24MPbut still have good high ISO performance. In fact much the same as the D3S but with more MP if you need it for the cropping. That said my D3S is still very good and works well for me except on those occasions when I need to have a cropped section. My Fuji XT1 is what I want from a Nikon D400. It is small, high performance except the AF which is still less than the speed of a DSLR. If Nikon dont want to use a EVF then I appreciate that the camera needs to be bigger to fit in an optical viewfinder from a conventional DSLR. As far as MP goes I think once again 24MP is perfect. |
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Graham Whistler
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I am finding that the Sony RX10 is also filling the gap left by (the bad move) I made trading in my D300 & 18-200 DX lens when I got my D800. The above flower pix is amazing quality from the Sony and part of the reason is the Zeiss lens is pin sharp even at f2.8 but also macro photography as we know is very hard to get enough depth of field. The depth is amazing in this pix but the 8.8mm lens is a great help and f5.6 is giving all you need. With my Nikon D800 and 105mm Macro lens I would have needed to use f22 or f16 for the same shot! I think Sony have been able to do a lot of R&D development work with small CMOS chips in their very high quality pro and high end pro/am range of camcorders. They are now using this in the new range of compact and DSLR still cameras. |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:I am finding that the Sony RX10 is also filling the gap left by (the bad move) I made trading in my D300 & 18-200 DX lens when I got my D800. For a long time I used a good compact camera for macro work precisely because the smaller sensor gave greater depth of field...and frankly adequate images compared to my DSLR. My wife takes flower macro shots on her video camera, specifically because of the margin for focus error she gets with the enhanced dof of these even smaller sensors. |
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Robert
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Funny that... Occasionally I even go to the extent of using my 300 f2.8 wide open to reduce the DoF, I usually seek to isolate the flower from it's surroundings which sometimes requires a short DoF.  Eric wrote: Graham Whistler wrote: |
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Eric
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Surroundings yes...but I prefer to see whole blooms in focus rather than a couple of petals. That needed f8-11 on the D3/105mm. With DX and compact size sensors that could go to f5.6. Robert wrote: Funny that... |
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Graham Whistler
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I am off to S France on holiday next week and will take the Sony with me it will do all I need and any good pix will give me a pin sharp A3 prints for my local camera club! Hope to post a few images when I get back. |
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Graham Whistler
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The Sony,s chip is quite small at 13.2x8.8mm but this still gives 20.9 Megapixels and produces images like this! Attachment: PoppySeed0110.jpg (Downloaded 57 times) |
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Graham Whistler
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Other info for above: 1/320 sec (windy day but full sun) f7.1 at 47.9mm (in 35mm 130mm) ISO 200 image size 5472X3648. Exposure with this camera: matrix meter is spot on 99% of time. This pix is almost as shot but some unsharp mask was used. Auto focus was aimed 1/3 way in. At A3+ image is pin sharp and I would be hard pressed to see a better print from any Nikon DSLR! Sorry to go on about this but this is very much what is going on with new lower end cameras today. |
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amazing50
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Looks like Sony has company ;~) http://www.gearophile.com/newsviews/1-is-the-new-bottom.html |
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jk
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Here is the new Panasonic DMC FZ1000 info from DPReview. http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-fz1000?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=features&utm_medium=sidebar-block-Homepage&ref=features |
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Graham Whistler
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I am enjoying some very good weather in Provence in the South of France. The little Sony is doing well but you will be pleased to hear I am also using the D800. This view of the dramatic Nesque Gorge is with the Sony at full wide the depth of field is very good. Attachment: Nesque0154s.jpg (Downloaded 40 times) |
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Graham Whistler
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This was taked last week also with the RX10 and the lavender was not quite at it's best so after last nights thunder hope we will have good weather and I will have a final go tomorrow before returning to UK. JK many thanks for resetting my password! Attachment: Lavender0172.jpg (Downloaded 40 times) |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:I am enjoying some very good weather in Provence in the South of France. The little Sony is doing well but you will be pleased to hear I am also using the D800. This view of the dramatic Nesque Gorge is with the Sony at full wide the depth of field is very good. Suspect I stood on that very spot, Graham, last year!! Lovely area, and lovely shot. |
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jk
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Great news that you have found the lavender fields  What the camera does not capture is the wonderful smell. |
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Graham Whistler
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Felt guilty with all these Sony pix so here is Gordes with the D800 and 24-70 AF-S lens! Today weather is great so am off with cameras to lavender and sunflower fields. Packing up day tomorrow and start long drive back on Saturday. Attachment: Gordes3979.jpg (Downloaded 35 times) |
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Graham Whistler
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This is a Sony pix from the local market. I doubt if you would get much better with a set-up in the studio this snap took less than 30 sec hand held! All it needed was a bit of unsharp mask in Photoshop. Attachment: Garlic0178.jpg (Downloaded 32 times) |
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Graham Whistler
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Another image from Islay this misty sea scape was lwith the Sony RX10 again! Attachment: SeaMist.jpg (Downloaded 17 times) |
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jk
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Nice shot Graham. |
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