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Posted by richw: Wed May 15th, 2013 17:28

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It' a great shot in my opinion.

http://m.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/furore-over-awardwinning-photo-20130515-2jlsl.html

Posted by Robert: Wed May 15th, 2013 18:09

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Back to the same old chestnut, when does enhancement become manipulation.

In my view provided the key elements are not altered in a way which changes the sense or truth of the image, doesn't mislead or misrepresent the scene, then enhancement or editing of the image is OK.

For artistic results then anything goes, especially if the client asks for it.

Perhaps the people who complain about this sort of stuff have too much time on their hands?

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Posted by Squarerigger: Thu May 16th, 2013 06:51

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Robert wrote:
Back to the same old chestnut, when does enhancement become manipulation.

In my view provided the key elements are not altered in a way which changes the sense or truth of the image, doesn't mislead or misrepresent the scene, then enhancement or editing of the image is OK.

For artistic results then anything goes, especially if the client asks for it.

Perhaps the people who complain about this sort of stuff have too much time on their hands?
Well stated Robert.

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Posted by Judith: Thu May 16th, 2013 07:36

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The complaints are possibly more political in nature rather than being about photography. I have a number of Israeli facebook "friends". Don't know them personally but they are on my list as they are fellow artists. I have seen many photos of incidents being passed around which involved Palestinians being killed and immediately, there are accusations of the photos being faked appearing on their walls (though not necessarily the artists' opinions, just stuff being shared around). I suspect something similar is going on with this photo, especially as it's a high profile one.

You can clearly see it has been manipulated with the lighting etc, but nothing else shouts fake. You would have to be completely stupid to totally falsify an event, then enter the pic in an international competition where you knew the photo would be examined forensically in case of doubt.

It is a great shot. Here is a bigger version of it: http://www.worldpressphoto.org/

Posted by jk: Thu May 16th, 2013 07:37

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Judith, Thanks for posting the larger image.
Looks like flash was used as well as natural light but also the faces of the second (older man) and the children have had their exposure lifted.

Seems fine to me.
I agree with Robert's comment that as long as there is no changes to image to make it misrepresent or mislead the viewer with regard to the situation then it is fine.

It is a good news picture (IMHO).

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Posted by Judith: Thu May 16th, 2013 07:45

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Yes, flash was used. The photographer said so in the comments in the article. You have to click on read more or something to get the full article. He talked about the flash bouncing round the narrow space.

Posted by TomOC: Thu May 16th, 2013 13:26

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I'm on board with changing brightness, "light direction," contrast, detail, etc in editing.

Compositing, however, would make a News photo wrong.

If this one was composited, it was done better than I could do it :-)

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Posted by Eric: Fri May 17th, 2013 02:51

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I must be losing it...I can't see any signs of flash. Must have been very low powered.

What I see is selective lightening (several faces) and sharpening (children's faces) to lift these key elements out of the darkness....due to under powered flash.

The enhancements of the children's faces could be what's leading people to suggest composites. When parts of an image leap out at you in contrast to other adjacent elements it can seem to look 'unreal'.

....but I think it's a straight shot.

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