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Posted by jk: Sun Apr 26th, 2015 04:54 1st Post
After weeks of rumors, Lightroom CC & 6 have just been released!

I won't go into all of the details, as it's a really long list of new features, but you can find them all here: http://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-lightroom-cc-6-0/  Here are the highlights...

Face Recognition

Lightroom searches your photos for things that look like faces, and displays these faces as a grid, ready for you to identify the people. As you start naming people, Lightroom starts recognizing their facial features and suggesting their names for other faces that look similar, so it's ideal for tagging family and friends.

Obviously it's not as smart as you are, and occasionally it identifies trees as people, suggests wrong names, and misses incomplete or small faces, but if you photograph friends, family and other people you might want to identify, it can save many hours of work (and it's more fun than normal keywording).


Photo Merge - HDR & Panorama

You can now merge photos into HDR images and panoramas without needing to use other software such as Photoshop. This is better than using Photoshop or other software, because the resulting DNG file still has the editing flexibility of the original files, even if they were raw files.


GPU Acceleration for Interactive Editing Performance

Lightroom can use the Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) to speed up interactive image editing. This provides real-time or near-time updates to the image while making adjustments in the Develop module using sliders. It makes the world of difference when using high-resolution screens, such as 4K and 5K displays.



I cant see much in it for me so at present I havent downloaded but the HDR features may be useful so no doubt I will be getting it if only for the faster performance.



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Posted by richw: Sun Apr 26th, 2015 05:47 2nd Post
I downloaded it last week, free with my CC membership. Haven't done any importing yet, but I'm having a go with the facial recognition, quite slow pulling photos from the NAS, but that may well be the hardware. Will see how it goes from the hard drive.



Posted by jk: Sun Apr 26th, 2015 14:00 3rd Post
I just purchased the upgrade from 5.7 which in UK is £59.09
I think that is fair as I can hopefully then forget about any issues with new cameras for the next two years.



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Posted by Robert: Thu May 21st, 2015 14:51 4th Post
I just realised I am behind on this one.

I have just upgraded my broadband to unlimited because I simply didn't have the bandwidth to download updates.

I tried to update my Adobe software, it updated Photoshop CC to 2014-2.2 release. I tried to update Lightroom and expected to be using Lr6 but I seem stuck at 5.7 with camera RAW at 8.7 Sigh!

I have tried several times to make a further update but it refuses. I am on a monthly subscription for the photo suit, PsCC and LrCC.

Any suggestions how to encourage it to update to the current version please?

This is the Lightroom system info:

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Posted by Robert: Thu May 21st, 2015 15:01 5th Post
Mmmm, I think I may have answered this one myself...

I have been digging and it seems for some strange reason I have to manually INSTALL the latest version. It doesn't seem to have been treated as an update from Lr5 to Lr6.

We will see...

This is the application menu:

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Posted by Robert: Thu May 21st, 2015 15:07 6th Post
OK, it's downloading:

But why? My understanding wasthat thes CC applications simply keep themselves up-to-date.

Will report back when it's up and running... Hopefully!

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Posted by Robert: Thu May 21st, 2015 16:22 7th Post
Err, yes, right, sorry about that!

I got a bit carried away with the face recognition software in Lr6! It's amazing, simply amazing. I have set it off finding all the faces in all my general images, I have named a few then it sort of took over! It was attempting to name more faces and asking for confirmation, In most cases it was right even when I was a little unsure myself (All babies look the same to me!!!) I checked dates of the doubtful ones and Lr had it right. It did insist that a stone lion was Michael, but apart from that it's uncanny!

I haven't looked at any of the other Lr6 features yet but if the faces feature is anything to go by it will be good.

Oh btw, it did need downloading, It left Lr5 still in my applications folder, so I just swapped the one in the dock for the new one.



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Posted by TomOC: Thu May 21st, 2015 16:51 8th Post
Robert-

Do you still have a licensed copy of LR on your machine? I had trouble upgrading in CC until I uninstalled the old licensed versions...now it's smooth and painless (especially since I hated the idea of subscription so much, it's nice to have it just happen and not remind me of the subscription :-)

Tom



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Posted by Robert: Thu May 21st, 2015 17:41 9th Post
There is Tom, in fact I have Lr3, Lr5 and now Lr6, all co-existing. Perhaps I should un-install the earlier versions...

However, I seem to have struck a snag. the screen is going black during processing. I am processing my entire general image files, 111,000 images. The computer is working very hard, the fans are on and although I haven't checked I expect all eight cores will be working flat out.

At first it was Ok but after about half an hour the fans cut in then I started to loose the rest of the screens. All I get are the actual images, both my screens go black. If I click on another application the screens come back to normal. If I click back on Lr, they go black again. It seems there is a driver issue with the built in video processor on the particular Mac mini I am running. I will have to check this out.

Will report back, will try running Lr without the faces section running. see if that fixes it.



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Posted by jk: Thu May 21st, 2015 17:49 10th Post
Robert, I have LR5 and LR6 installed. I have uninstalled all earlier versions.

The only reason I have LR5 and LR6 is that I am still testing but at present I see little difference so LR5 can/will probably go soon!



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Posted by Robert: Thu May 21st, 2015 18:31 11th Post
Well the reason I have Lr3 installed is that it's Michaels own licenced copy but I guess it could be installed on his own comp now.

The video issue seems related to heat, it may be that the inside is affected by dust. I have been doing re-construction work in my bedroom and everything is rather dusty.

I am now running a temperature monitor to see what's happening in there while I do some more face recognition.



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Posted by richw: Thu May 21st, 2015 18:58 12th Post
This is actually the first CC version they have done for Lightroom, the others were discrete version of 5. Now you have installed CC the update process should run the same as for Photoshop.



Posted by jk: Fri May 22nd, 2015 03:40 13th Post
Robert wrote:
Well the reason I have Lr3 installed is that it's Michaels own licenced copy but I guess it could be installed on his own comp now.

The video issue seems related to heat, it may be that the inside is affected by dust. I have been doing re-construction work in my bedroom and everything is rather dusty.

I am now running a temperature monitor to see what's happening in there while I do some more face recognition.

You can get inside the Mac Mini ancd gently dust with a clean paintbrush then hoover out.
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Posted by jk: Fri May 22nd, 2015 03:42 14th Post
richw wrote:
This is actually the first CC version they have done for Lightroom, the others were discrete version of 5. Now you have installed CC the update process should run the same as for Photoshop.
Have you noted any major differences other than the face recognition and other stuff mentioned in the marketing blur.

For me it seems to run cleaner (faster) than the 5.x version.



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 22nd, 2015 04:11 15th Post
richw wrote:
This is actually the first CC version they have done for Lightroom, the others were discrete version of 5. Now you have installed CC the update process should run the same as for Photoshop.
Thanks Rich, makes sense.



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 22nd, 2015 04:21 16th Post
jk wrote:
richw wrote:
This is actually the first CC version they have done for Lightroom, the others were discrete version of 5. Now you have installed CC the update process should run the same as for Photoshop.
Have you noted any major differences other than the face recognition and other stuff mentioned in the marketing blur.

For me it seems to run cleaner (faster) than the 5.x version.

Possibly but I am so hooked up on the face recognition that I haven't had chance to notice. My Mac mini seems to be running at it's limits with the face recognition.

Once I really get on top of it I want to see if I can train it to recognise flowers, By going to an image and selecting an object you can name the object, I want to see if I can train it to recognise flowers. THAT would be really useful. If that's possible then why not makes and models of cars or other objects?

I don't think the software is concerned what the object is, only the geometric proportions.



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Posted by jk: Fri May 22nd, 2015 14:44 17th Post
Robert, that is a different algorithm but you might be able to get it to do it.

I think this will be a very useful future technology as many people use this for collecting and documenting collections.



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Posted by TomOC: Sat May 23rd, 2015 20:56 18th Post
Robert-

I doubt very much that the problem is from having the older versions installed. The only reason to uninstall them is "neatness" and storage space...

LR6 did require a conversion of the catalog to a new format but it nicely leaves the older catalog unchanged (for use with older versions). It took some time to convert but as I recall it finished in a couple of hours (160k images).

I generally leave the old version on my mac for about a month...just in case there is some meltdown in the new product and I need the old one to work, then I delete the old one (and in this case the old catalog).

LR6 seems to run faster and has been flawless for me...so far I haven't bothered with the face recognition and I'm quite happy with Photomatrix for HDR but should probably try LR HDR at some point.

Happy Daze...

Tom



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Posted by richw: Mon May 25th, 2015 05:49 19th Post
jk wrote:
richw wrote:
This is actually the first CC version they have done for Lightroom, the others were discrete version of 5. Now you have installed CC the update process should run the same as for Photoshop.
Have you noted any major differences other than the face recognition and other stuff mentioned in the marketing blur.

For me it seems to run cleaner (faster) than the 5.x version.

They have added graphics card support - previously the CPU was doing all the heavy lifting. As long as it is switched on preferences the adjustment brush and local corrections do seem smoother and quicker, but I have only had a quick play - not really edited anything serious yet.

The new Panoramic merge module in Lightroom is really good - better than photoshop.


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