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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2012 01:59
 
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Thanks Rich very interesting, I think composing on a screen is to be preferred to using a viewfinder when you have the time. i.e. not for sports! I just wish it could swivel so you are looking down on it perhaps with a loupe. That is what I really miss from the medium format cameras, it allows you to *compose* rather than using the viewfinder like a gun sight and aiming it at the subject with the rest of the image taking a back seat in the composition.



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richw wrote: The more I use this camera, the happier I am with it. It's proving to be everything I had hoped the Fuji would be.

Noise at high ISO is very good and I have very acceptable images from noise and sharpness perspective up to 1600, not tried pushing beyond that yet.

Focus is obviously slower than a DSLR but not bad at all, certainly no worse than the Fuji with added features like face detection. The manual focus option is quite nice, there is a multi function ring on the lens that can be used for manual focus and you can program the centre selection button in manual focus mode to zoom in on the point you have focused on. I didn't do photography in the manual focus days and have had very little practice manually focusing on anything but this seems very useable to me.

Colour rendition seems a little cold on the LCD on the camera but comes out nicely on the computer, Lightroom has some canned camera profiles for it for portrait, landscape etc which match nicely with the Nikon profiles so I can use my import presets (mainly portrait) on these images as well.

The controls are actually quite nice, I nearly always shoot in Aperture mode (or  Amateur mode according to Ray :thumbsup:) and I find this easy to control with only one annoying feature which is the splash screen that comes up on the LCD to explain what each mode means. 

'P' works nicely as well with the control wheel adjusting the aperture for an adjusted P* just like an DSLR.

If you are not using the control ring on the lens for focusing you can assign this to control the aperture/shutter speed and this works well.

Only down side at all is composing on the screen instead of through an eye piece, I need to try and reduce the amount of information on the screen as this is distracting for this, but so far even in bright sunlight I have had no issue with the screen becoming too washed out to see properly. The stance you have to take to hold the camera however is not great, I don't think I'll be taking any steady slow exposures with this camera.

Overall I would give this a very high mark 9/10 compared to 6.5/10 for a fully working Fuji.

That's an interesting final comment Rich.
I've just been loading some holiday photos on a drive so I can give the relatives visitng this weekend a potted holiday slideshow. I had trouble getting the blu ray player to keep to the right date sequence ...because not only are the files a mixture of Nikon D7000 _DSC and Fuji _DSCF filenames but I forgot to reset the date on the Fuji to BS time...so the 'date' overlaps by an hour! However....on a large screen I have to say that the Fuji images are CLEARLY better than the Nikon files! You immediately see when a FUJI image pops up ...not just because it's out of sequence but ...it's punchier! Now maybe it's the Nikon lenses ( I did have some damage issues with them on the last trip) or maybe the incamera sharpening default is higher in the FujI? But my Fuji is a 9/10 for image quality...6/10 for speed of focus and wake up time!



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I'd agree with you Eric.
This is especially noticeable with the XPro1 images. The X100 ones are also very good.


I always thought the D3 and D3 were good but under studio conditions with the 60mm f2.4 lens on the XPro1 I need to use the D800 to get the better quality than the XPro1.



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I'm finding these comparison discussions more and more confusing. There are so many sensor sizes now, it's impossible to remember what is what :-)

I have always been the proponent of a camera that will fit in my pocket and wasted so much time and dinero trying out each p&s that came along.

My criteria were real VF, high IQ (sensor size), fit in jacket pocket.

The Fuji x100 was the first and so far only camera that really meets all of these criteria, though I still haven't gotten my hands on one of the new Sony FF RX1 offerings...and I may not. I have somewhat made a commitment to the Fuji line, much as I made one to Nikon once the D1 was introduced (and gave me a 3 year lead in using a digital DSLR)...that probably means that inertia will now keep me with Fuji unless there is some major fault on their part or breakthrough from someone else - they have truly introduced a new "system" and so far I like it, much the same as Nikon did with the D1.

We'll see, but my advice to Rick is NOT to toss the x100 :-)

Happy New Year everyone !!!!



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Well I have been very happy with the image quality of the Sony to date, as my Fuji is broken a head to head might not be possible but I will try to organise something shooting both in JPG as to date with both I have only used RAW which is then subject to processing differences.

 




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The below were shot with the Sony this morning - in Raw - I have deliberately over sharpened and over saturated them in processing as I thought it was a good look for these images.








 




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OK These are very bad photos taken with an iPhone, but I'm getting up early and its nearly 1am so not worrying about the quality (but after a second look almost didn't post) :(
The last image is the worst and needs rotating 90 degrees but is the main reason I love this camera so much. It shows me slipping it into my front jeans pocket. It sits in there comfortably no problem at all - it's about the same size as my blackberry. The fuji simply won't do that, so whilst I believe it would compete OK on image quality I'm much more likely to have the Sony on me at any given point.
For me that is the point of this camera (and the Fuji). If I'm going out with photography as a main objective (or even just having a barbi at home) I'll get the Nikon out. However if photography is an incidental possibility or I don't want to upset my Barbi guests by shoving a D3 in their faces I can pull out a small camera - and the Sony is more convenient than the Fuji.






 




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Nice photos of the street art. 
Wow, the Sony is really small. Did you find it difficult to handle?



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