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| Posted by jk: Thu Jan 23rd, 2014 06:20 | 1st Post |
| In case anyone who follows Scott Kelby and his advice and tutorials is wonder why his stuff is more Canon centric these days!! Here is the reason http://nikonrumors.com/2014/01/21/sponsorship-is-why-scott-kelby-switched-from-nikon-to-canon-and-thats-ok.aspx/ Well he does give advice and it doesnt hurt to make a buck or two.
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| Posted by Robert: Thu Jan 23rd, 2014 09:11 | 2nd Post |
| And he is free to use whatever kit he wants to. Depending on a users interests he or she is likely to follow or 'adopt' different remote advisors or almost mentors. Credibility and honesty play a huge part in that. Some guidance and advice can be found on forums like this one but some useful info can be found on sites like Scott's. Personally I find the greatest affinity with Bj¸rn, Naturegraf, http://www.naturfotograf.com and Klaus, kds315 http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.co.uk both of whom have been most helpful when I have had a query. I understand Bj¸rn has made a point in avoiding any form of 'sponsorship' and I am sure Klaus is completely independent. When a personality 'adopts' a manufacturer it must result in their followers tending to follow that lead. Being a bit of a Maverick, I shall continue look at all options, ask opinions, then make my own choices.
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| Posted by jk: Thu Jan 23rd, 2014 09:50 | 3rd Post |
Robert said:Being a bit of a Maverick, I shall continue look at all options, ask opinions, then make my own choices. I agree. It needs to suit you as it is a charged option. If it doesnt suit someone who gets it for free then they can just as easily choose not to use it or dump it for a different model.
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| Posted by Bob Bowen: Thu Jan 23rd, 2014 11:22 | 4th Post |
| Kelby posted a video on why he switched. Better deal I suspect and the grass is always greener.
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| Posted by Robert: Thu Jan 23rd, 2014 11:42 | 5th Post |
Bob Bowen wrote:the grass is always greener. This ultra green grass must keep help camera sales buoyant. In reality I don't believe there is much difference especially in the long run. You may get the odd camera which is ahead of the game or not quite there but overall I really don't see that it's worth lining a camera shops coffers by switching systems on a whim.
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| Posted by TomOC: Fri Jan 24th, 2014 14:09 | 6th Post |
| The part that really hurt was the remark that "the canon felt like it was designed by Apple" He has recently getting very much into sports shooting. He may well have a point (hard to see it as enough to switch your whole system) that canon has a very small advantage this year in sport shooting. But we've all seen this go back and forth several times since the dominance of the D1. He also argues that the canon speedlites are better. ? Really? Everything I've ever read says that the Nikon ones are head and shoulders the best. Did I miss a generational shift here? A reason that would almost temp me to switch, he didn't mention. The new ProFoto B1 strobes are TTL for Canon ... Nikon to be added sometime later this year. These look like the coolest battery strobes ever made and I'm lusting for a set...they will get cheaper at some point...still on original backorder in many places now.... For my money, the two companies should merge and become Canikon and make us all happy 
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| Posted by Eric: Fri Jan 24th, 2014 15:49 | 7th Post |
TomOC wrote:The part that really hurt was the remark that "the canon felt like it was designed by Apple" What about Fuji? Would Canikonuji fit across the pentaprism?
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| Posted by jk: Fri Jan 24th, 2014 18:43 | 8th Post |
| I would warn anyone wanting to shift from one marque to another is that there is a game of leapfrog being played by Canon and Nikon. However the retailers dont respect your investment just how much cash you have in your pocket/card.
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| Posted by amazing50: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 03:21 | 9th Post |
| Just passed over to the dark side. Purchased a Canon MP-E 65mm F/2.8 1-5X MF Lens. This is strictly a macro lense and there is nothinl like it in Nikon. I also ordered a Canon to Nikon adaptor which hopefully will save me buying a Canon body. This lens is manual focus anyway, don't know about the f stops yet. Here is the lens http://www.ebay.com/itm/331110402196?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_198wt_1429
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 06:01 | 10th Post |
amazing50 wrote:Just passed over to the dark side. This counts not a turn to the dark side. But careful you must be, takes hold it does not. Strong the dark side is.
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| Posted by jk: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 07:36 | 11th Post |
| That lens is a very nice one. It is strange that Nikon dont have a similar offering. I guess they think that you should use a set of bellows instead. However that makes for a very large and unwieldy setup. Ed Constable also bought one of these lenses but I think he may have got a Canon body to go with it. 5X magnification is very significant for a 65mm lens. What sort of distances subject to end of lens do you need to get that to work ?
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| Posted by amazing50: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 12:21 | 12th Post |
| The minimum focusing distance is 24cm or about 9.5 inches but that is from the sensor so at 5x there won't be too much room from the front glass to the subject. Currently I'm using tubes and a bellows with a reversed 35mm lens to get about 4x and it often takes 15 seconds to steady for a shot with the cable release.
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| Posted by amazing50: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 14:44 | 13th Post |
| Found this, looks like the scale on the lens gives the working distance At 3x it is 51mm or 2 inches. Room for my LED ring light ;~). Attachment: Canon MP-E 65mm F2.8 1-5X MF Lens.jpg (Downloaded 39 times)
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| Posted by jk: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 15:46 | 14th Post |
| That looks very nice. Let us know how you get on with it. And dont forget to post some photos.
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| Posted by TomOC: Sun Jan 26th, 2014 16:08 | 15th Post |
Eric wrote:TomOC wrote: Wouldn't want to taint Fuji's concept of caring about the users and improving existing models just because they CAN...
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| Posted by jk: Mon Jan 27th, 2014 12:26 | 16th Post |
| Oh dear I'm not sure I should post this. but look here...... http://nikonrumors.com/2014/01/26/odd-ways-of-macro-photography.aspx/ Seems like the Canon could have been an expensive purchase. :-( 
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Jan 27th, 2014 12:43 | 17th Post |
| Oooo! I like that... Something to take to pieces, my buddy may have a lens with damaged front element, I like this idea. :thumbsup:
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| Posted by amazing50: Mon Jan 27th, 2014 17:20 | 18th Post |
| I tried this after seeing the article with an old 24-120 D lens that was too expensive to repair. It worked after removing the two front elements but needed to be reverse mounted. Goes from about 1/2x to 3x on the D600. Having problems with the f stop due to prior issues. Getting some more adaptor rings to mount a ring light for some sharpness tests. Looking forward to the Canon lens. It is a different range and probably much sharper and has VR. This is a good DIY conversion project IF you have a zoom lens of very low value, some skill at tinkering and a fair collection of salvaged camera parts and adapter rings. Once you remove the front elements reinstalling them in perfect alignment, dust and scratch free is difficult if your lens won't work as a macro. It is however an inexpensive way of getting into macro.
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Jan 27th, 2014 18:30 | 19th Post |
amazing50 wrote:Looking forward to the Canon lens. It is a different range and probably much sharper and has VR. Does the Canon VR (IS?) work in macro use? According to Nikon the Nikkor 105 f2.8 VR Micro the VR doesn't work close up. I don't understand why, it would be very interesting to know if it's VR and close working that doesn't work or some characteristic of the Nikkor lens that causes the limitation.
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| Posted by Eric: Mon Jan 27th, 2014 18:45 | 20th Post |
Robert wrote:amazing50 wrote: Strictly speaking, the paperwork that came with the 100vr said that VR performance diminished when approaching less than 18†(if my memory serves me correctly). It didn't actually say it 'didn't work'. I got sharper images when using a tripod than the VR ...but I guess that would always be better.
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| Posted by amazing50: Mon Jan 27th, 2014 21:47 | 21st Post |
| Since this lens is strictly a macro, Canon must have figured out a way to get the VR to improve sharpness. The reviews are great for it's macro capabilities build and sharpness. Most of the negative comments were from those not farmiliar with macro techniques and/or hadn't read Canons info on their site. One reviewer claimed great results with a 1.4x extender.
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| Posted by jk: Tue Jan 28th, 2014 05:30 | 22nd Post |
Robert wrote:amazing50 wrote: I now tend to switch off VR unless I am working in low light and I think it will benefit me to use it. It is nice feature but not a must have! Sorry Nikon another bell and twiddle that is wasted on me. AFS is much more useful.
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| Posted by Doug: Sun Feb 9th, 2014 15:34 | 23rd Post |
| I always thought nikon were more like Apple - going their own way, simple to use, user needs or their own design at heart (for better or worse), insightful, clever, misunderstood. Canon always seemed to be designed by commitee (a commitee of bean counters), lack of vision, deliberately charging more for less etc. (more like Microsoft)
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| Posted by jk: Sun Feb 9th, 2014 16:04 | 24th Post |
| Well I think that you might be correct in your perception Doug. But we all need to be aware that we can all make mistakes even with the best intentions and advice. I am sure that we are but a few years away from the DSLRs as we know them being retired as new technolgy takes hold and removes the need for the pentaprism and mirror!
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| Posted by amazing50: Mon Feb 10th, 2014 00:50 | 25th Post |
| The Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x lens arrived. Total cost was US $800, or a bit over $900 Canadian with exchange. The Canon EF to Nikon adapter still hasn't arived so I havn't been able to try it out yet. There is no VR on this lens and I checked the Canon site and I couldn't find a VR version.
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