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Posted by Iain: Tue Dec 16th, 2014 09:43 1st Post
Just a question for those that have or have had the Fuji x100.
What is your thoughts about it? I'm thinking of one as a small camera for days out and general photography.
Any recommendations on which version to go for, it would be secondhand.



Posted by jk: Tue Dec 16th, 2014 16:49 2nd Post
Only downer is the battery life. You need to carry a couple of spare extra batteries. Otherwise the IQ is awesome and the camera works well.

I still have mine and I love it. I use it when I go walking.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 16th, 2014 19:29 3rd Post
jk wrote:
Only downer is the battery life. You need to carry a couple of spare extra batteries. Otherwise the IQ is awesome and the camera works well.

I still have mine and I love it. I use it when I go walking.

Apart from battery life, I would 'criticise' the X100 for its slow response time, a few switch irritations and of course the lack of lens interchangeability...WHEN COMPARED TO LATER MODELS.

That said, the IQ matches the D3.

I felt the lack of lens interchangeability began to pall after a while. I found myself carrying a D7000 as well! We've all done the 'walk around with just a 50mm lens' exercise. It does focus attention on picture composition and hone you skills. But you cannot beat a range of focal lengths at your disposal....be that primes or zoom.
I wanted a camera I could use walking round towns taking street shots. Sorry, the response time of the X100 isn't good enough for that. If you switch it off, to save battery, it will take seconds to wake up, frame, focus and fire. It's no use for moving situations....the decisive moment is lost.

Personally I would go for a used XPro or XT.



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Posted by Iain: Wed Dec 17th, 2014 00:55 4th Post
I had a look in Jessops last night and the x30 looked a nice camera and seems to have a good write up.



Posted by jk: Wed Dec 17th, 2014 09:25 5th Post
The sensor on the X30 is much smaller but the camera has all the features of the X100 plus it has a zoom lens. I did consider buying one myself but I got a Nikon V1 with 10-30 and 30-110 lenses and a spare battery for less than £300. The X30 was £475.
The V1 has a sensor (1" CX sized) which is 1/2 the area of APS-C.
The X30 sensor is half that again I think, so 1/4 the area of APS-C.



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Posted by Iain: Wed Dec 17th, 2014 10:25 6th Post
How do you rate the v1 compared to the Fuji?



Posted by TomOC: Wed Dec 17th, 2014 17:42 7th Post
Iain-

There are now 3 models of x100

The original, the x100s and very recently the x100t

Each has a lot of improvements and in each case some of the improvements are handed down to the older models via firmware updates.

I think the biggest jump was from the x100 to the x100s and that should be pretty heavlily discounted now that the x100t is available.

That said, the x100 had a different sensor and many like the way it handles color better than the new sensor (which handles faster focus).

They are all the ultimate pocket camera as far as I'm concerned...really excellent IQ in all sorts of conditions.

Tom



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Posted by Iain: Thu Dec 18th, 2014 11:48 8th Post
Thanks Tom. If I go for the x100 it will be the s model I think.



Posted by Iain: Mon Dec 22nd, 2014 11:32 9th Post
I've just entered the Fuji clan with a x-pro 1, it should be here tomorrow in time to play with over Christmas.



Posted by jk: Tue Dec 23rd, 2014 04:55 10th Post
Oh very nice.
Make sure that you get the latest firmware that was released earlier this week.
If you need help then PM or email me or post here.

Super high quality set of cameras with outstanding lenses. When the 140-400mm comes in 2015 then it will have an excellent lens range.

Dont expect it to have speed of AF the same as Canon or Nikon but everything else is as good.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Dec 23rd, 2014 10:56 11th Post
All seems good so far Jonathan just been reading the manual for a few fine points but have got the hang of it. I'm impressed with how clean it is at 6400 ISO.
All I need now is for this rain to stop so I get out and have a good play with it.



Posted by jk: Tue Dec 23rd, 2014 19:04 12th Post
Iain wrote:
How do you rate the v1 compared to the Fuji?
Different but IQ is not near the Fujis!



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Posted by jk: Tue Dec 23rd, 2014 19:06 13th Post
Iain wrote:
All seems good so far Jonathan just been reading the manual for a few fine points but have got the hang of it. I'm impressed with how clean it is at 6400 ISO.
All I need now is for this rain to stop so I get out and have a good play with it.

Which lens did you get with it?
All are good but the 35 f1.4 is a very sharp lens.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Dec 27th, 2014 10:49 14th Post
I just got the 16-50 zoom at the moment and for the cheaper end of the fuji lenses it's sharp. I am finding I have very little to do to the files and jpeg's are good sotc.

I'll invest in some better lenses later the 35 f1.4 being one of them.



Posted by TomOC: Sat Dec 27th, 2014 15:05 15th Post
Iain-

You will grow to love that camera...not quite pocketable like the x100 but more versatile and feels like it was made for your hand :-)

Enjoy

Tom



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Posted by Iain: Sat Dec 27th, 2014 17:01 16th Post
Beginning to get there already Tom. If I didn't need the big fast stuff for what sport I do and wildlife I'd be looking at a xt1 as well.



Posted by amazing50: Sun Dec 28th, 2014 22:19 17th Post
Interesting article on the Fuji XT1.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/cameras/living_with_the_fuji_x_t1.shtml



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Posted by Eric: Mon Dec 29th, 2014 16:54 18th Post
amazing50 wrote:
Interesting article on the Fuji XT1.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/cameras/living_with_the_fuji_x_t1.shtml

I am the same opinion with regard to the XT. However, having recently handled a new Sony mirror less model, I am of the opinion the Fuji VF is no longer that good! The Sony VF is brighter, more natural colour rendition (especially in artificial light) and with less digital interference.

It will be interesting to see what the next Fuji VF is like!



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Posted by jk: Mon Dec 29th, 2014 17:57 19th Post
I havent used the Sony but I do know the lens range is pretty crappy.
One thing I hate about Sony is that they seem to frefer to release a new/replacement model rather than fix a small camera fault that Fuji or Nikon would fix via firmware.
On these two critical items I would not buy Sony even though their camera specifications always look incredible.
IMHO The best small format system is the Olympus EMD5 as it has great specs, performance and lens range but unfortunately it is crippled by the use of the 4/3 sensor which I think is too small for professional and commercial work where you may be asked to make an A0 poster from a crop of an image. Such a shame!

I think there will be an XPro2 or XE3 and possibly an XT2 announced/released in February 2015 and hopefully this will have 24MP in a similarly small camera.
I need only the 140-400mm and possibly the 10-24mm to complete my lens range.
If the new Fujis that come in 2015 can match closely the AF performance of my Nikons then I am afraid to say that I will let most of my Nikon kit go. Nikon seem to have missed the mirrorless APS-C boat as well as the DSLR DX pro-body boat!!



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Posted by Iain: Tue Dec 30th, 2014 09:09 20th Post
I'm only a week or so into Fuji ownership and to be honest with the 140-400mm lens and if they bring the AF up to Nikon/Canon standard I'll be thinking of switching over as well.



Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 30th, 2014 16:03 21st Post
jk wrote:
I havent used the Sony but I do know the lens range is pretty crappy.
One thing I hate about Sony is that they seem to frefer to release a new/replacement model rather than fix a small camera fault that Fuji or Nikon would fix via firmware.
On these two critical items I would not buy Sony even though their camera specifications always look incredible.
IMHO The best small format system is the Olympus EMD5 as it has great specs, performance and lens range but unfortunately it is crippled by the use of the 4/3 sensor which I think is too small for professional and commercial work where you may be asked to make an A0 poster from a crop of an image. Such a shame!

I think ther will be an XPro2 or XE3 and possibly an XT2 released in February 2015 and hopefully this will have 24MP in a similarly small camera.
I need only the 140-400mm and possibly the 10-24mm to complete my lens range.
If the new Fujis that come in 2015 can match closely the AF performance of my Nikons then I am afraid to say that I will let most of my Nikon kit go. Nikon seem to have missed the mirrorless APS-C boat as well as the DSLR DX pro-body boat!!

Having a senior moment!
It was a LUMIX (Panasonic) camera not a Sony.
I didn't get a chance to try it but it had a Zeiss lens and the owner is really impressed with the IQ.

But whatever the image quality, it's viewfinder brightness, colour fidelity and lack of electronic disturbance was much better than the Fuji. That's what fuji need to improve next time.


:thumbsup:



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Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 30th, 2014 16:15 22nd Post
Iain wrote:
I just got the 16-50 zoom at the moment and for the cheaper end of the fuji lenses it's sharp. I am finding I have very little to do to the files and jpeg's are good sotc.

I'll invest in some better lenses later the 35 f1.4 being one of them.

I use the 16-50 on my IR converted XE1. Unlike the more expensive zooms it has only minor a hotspot and it is nice and sharp at a good price....especially as I bought it used! :-)



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Posted by Iain: Wed Dec 31st, 2014 11:08 23rd Post
My copy is sharp and used but buying the Fuji has given my a problem, I'm not happy because I didn't realise what I was missing in dynamic range with the Canon gear till I got the Fuji. Now I'm not happy.

Why is the pursuit of perfection such a pain in the a**e.:doh:



Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 31st, 2014 12:10 24th Post
Iain wrote:
My copy is sharp and used but buying the Fuji has given my a problem, I'm not happy because I didn't realise what I was missing in dynamic range with the Canon gear till I got the Fuji. Now I'm not happy.

Why is the pursuit of perfection such a pain in the a**e.:doh:

"Long and difficult, the path to perfection is. If seek this you do, then travel this path you must.

The force with you will be."

:bowing:



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Posted by jk: Wed Dec 31st, 2014 15:24 25th Post
Teehhee.
If Canon can then ?anyone? can?.
The level of detail out of the Fuji APS-C X-Trans sensor is better than any I have seen from Canon or Nikon equivalents!

Enjoy. Just wait until you see results from other lenses in the Fuji range!



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Posted by Iain: Wed Dec 31st, 2014 16:35 26th Post
If the xt1 had a better viewfinder and AF for wildlife that would have been the option but lens might be the problem as well.



Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 31st, 2014 16:55 27th Post
Iain wrote:
If the xt1 had a better viewfinder and AF for wildlife that would have been the option but lens might be the problem as well.
The XT is 'better' than earlier models....but not sufficient that would recommend it for wild life or sports use.

I am on the verge of getting rid of all my Nikon gear except for the 500mm, 300mm and 80-200mm. I just need a D400 to go with them for action subjects!!

Fuji are evolving and improving all the time...I would be happy to use their equipment for all other subjects.



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Posted by Iain: Wed Dec 31st, 2014 17:14 28th Post
That's the way I am after using the Fuji for the last week or so. The sports is almost nonexistent now so I just need something for wildlife.



Posted by amazing50: Mon Jan 5th, 2015 12:40 29th Post
Depends on the kind of wildlife. I'm doing an ongoing study of Northern Map Turtles.

An 8x10 view camera would be fast enough for them.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Jan 5th, 2015 15:00 30th Post
amazing50 wrote:
Depends on the kind of wildlife. I'm doing an ongoing study of Northern Map Turtles.

An 8x10 view camera would be fast enough for them.

:lol:



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