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Posted by Iain: Sat Nov 21st, 2015 10:39 1st Post
When looking at images taken with the D7200 and the D6100 in Adobe Bridge i get no metadata and I can't work out why.
It's bound to be something simple that I'm missing.



Posted by Robert: Sat Nov 21st, 2015 11:04 2nd Post
NEF or JPEG? Should make no difference...

I usually check EXIF in Photoshop or Lightroom, you get a fuller report (more data) from Photoshop. Have never used Bridge to check metadata, did not know it was possible.

The only time I have used Bridge was to open JPEG's in the RAW processor ADR? Which gives some finer controls over tones and white balance, together with it's batch processing features.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Nov 21st, 2015 11:08 3rd Post
Thats the funny thing Robert I can get the metadata in LR and PS so I would expect it to be in BR.

I use BR a bit but it's not a hardship to look at MD in LR.



Posted by jk: Sat Nov 21st, 2015 12:30 4th Post
I dont use Bridge but I do know it is meant to show metadata. Have you looked at the tabs and preferences.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Nov 21st, 2015 12:41 5th Post
Ive looked but can't see anything. I've turned the Mac off now but will have a look tomorrow.



Posted by jk: Sat Nov 21st, 2015 17:00 6th Post
Here you go.

Attachment: Screen Shot 2015-11-21 at 22.59.12.jpg (Downloaded 21 times)



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Posted by Iain: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 08:53 7th Post
Got it working, it must have been in the settings as I reset them and it's there.



Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 10:26 8th Post
So you went for the D610, Iain? I would be interested to get your perspective on how the D7200 compares to the D610.. regarding the buffer speed and general responsiveness.

Coming from the D3 to the D750 I do feel that the D3 was faster, slicker and did everything quicker. Of course it only has 12mp which meant smaller files to handle. It's this comparative 'sluggishness' that disappoints on the D750. Of course it may just be the difference between Dbodies and Dxx bodies.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 10:43 9th Post
So far I have found the D610 to be a bit slower than the D7200 in focus speed. The buffer, as yet I have not hit it on either, I have a 1000x Sd card in both which seems to keep me off the buffer.
I prefer the handling of th D7200 I don't know why as they are both of similar size and layout. The D610 is about a stop or so better at high ISO.
As for IQ surprisenley I can't see much difference.
It's still early days, I think more use of both is needed.



Posted by jk: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 12:39 10th Post
Eric wrote:
So you went for the D610, Iain? I would be interested to get your perspective on how the D7200 compares to the D610.. regarding the buffer speed and general responsiveness.

Coming from the D3 to the D750 I do feel that the D3 was faster, slicker and did everything quicker. Of course it only has 12mp which meant smaller files to handle. It's this comparative 'sluggishness' that disappoints on the D750. Of course it may just be the difference between Dbodies and Dxx bodies.

Eric, can you comment further on this sluggishness of the D750.
I'm likely to get a D750 or D810 in the new year but I feel that the D810 is too many MP especially as I have a D800. The D750 has some nice improvements over my D600.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 15:20 11th Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
So you went for the D610, Iain? I would be interested to get your perspective on how the D7200 compares to the D610.. regarding the buffer speed and general responsiveness.

Coming from the D3 to the D750 I do feel that the D3 was faster, slicker and did everything quicker. Of course it only has 12mp which meant smaller files to handle. It's this comparative 'sluggishness' that disappoints on the D750. Of course it may just be the difference between Dbodies and Dxx bodies.

Eric, can you comment further on this sluggishness of the D750.
I'm likely to get a D750 or D810 in the new year but I feel that the D810 is too many MP especially as I have a D800. The D750 has some nice improvements over my D600.

It's difficult to quantify...and maybe down to the card I was using. I was shooting a kitchen with tricky lighting ( darkworktops, light woodwork with lots of LED spots). It's often a recipe for burntout highlight and distracting reflections so I bracket heavily and rob elements from each. EricHDR. Lol

Anyway, the focus acquisition was slightly slower than the D3. (Same lens) Not major or any consequence when shooting statics. It did make me wonder how it would perform in low light action situations.

The main issue was the speed writing files. I repeat it may have been a slow card ( must check that tomorrow) but if I shot a burst of 5, then another burst of 5, moved the tripod slightly and shot another set of five...the last couple of shots ie 14/15 wouldn't fire for a couple of seconds. The file writing light seemed to be permanently on and it stayed lit for some time after I stopped shooting.

I just got the feeling when challenging it, the D750 went at its own pace. Somehow the D3 always seemed to keep pace with my needs.

Must look at that card...I just remembered Iused the best ones in the Fuji ...and the wife nicked some for video use. She may have left me with dross. Lol

I would put the D750 on par with the Fuji XT for performance.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 15:53 12th Post
It may be your card Eric as I found the D7200 slow but was using a class 10 600x but now using Lexar 1000x it ok.
I'll have to try some long bursts as I tend to do short bursts.



Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 16:35 13th Post
Iain wrote:
It may be your card Eric as I found the D7200 slow but was using a class 10 600x but now using Lexar 1000x it ok.
I'll have to try some long bursts as I tend to do short bursts.

Have ordered a couple of those cards to replace mine. Will see if that changes my view of the D750.

Thinking about it....most of my fast cards were for the D3 ...ie compactflash! SD cards were bought for Jan's less taxing cameras. I got some reasonably fast ones for the Fuji...but then Jan wanted them for video!!



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Posted by jk: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 17:02 14th Post
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison



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Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 03:44 15th Post
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 04:10 16th Post
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.

Oh, this comment on the same article suggests my buying the UHS II Lexar is NOT going to help!!!

"The most current version of SDHC UHS-II can write at 280 MB/sec. The newly announced Nikon D750 has no support for UHS-II, so it would be pointless to try to use one of those cards. In addition, there is internal bus speed limitations too, just like what the user at Flickr noticed. If manufacturer uses cheaper parts or slower bus, then newer and faster cards won't do anything":thumbsdown:

I do find all this card speed, bus speed and the varying configurations the manufacturers use for different models confusing and frankly irritating. I just want the camera to take pictures at my pace! Maybe performance is assigned just to the D4 range?
o.O



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Posted by jk: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 04:12 17th Post
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.

The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.



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Posted by jk: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 04:17 18th Post
Eric wrote:
Eric wrote:

Oh, this comment on the same article suggests my buying the UHS II Lexar is NOT going to help!!!

"The most current version of SDHC UHS-II can write at 280 MB/sec. The newly announced Nikon D750 has no support for UHS-II, so it would be pointless to try to use one of those cards. In addition, there is internal bus speed limitations too, just like what the user at Flickr noticed. If manufacturer uses cheaper parts or slower bus, then newer and faster cards won't do anything":thumbsdown:

I agree but if you get a SDHC-UHS-II card it will prove that the card is not the limiting factor. Also there will probably be an update of the firmware that will allow its use if the rest of the bus technology doesnt stop this.
If the card does work not in the D750 then it will in the XT1. :-)



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Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 04:20 19th Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.

The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.

Yorkshire wallets are coated with anti itch cream from the outset.
;-)

Not planning on any other purchase till I have thinned out all my existing gear and decided if it's Nikon of Fuji for me.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 04:23 20th Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
Eric wrote:

Oh, this comment on the same article suggests my buying the UHS II Lexar is NOT going to help!!!

"The most current version of SDHC UHS-II can write at 280 MB/sec. The newly announced Nikon D750 has no support for UHS-II, so it would be pointless to try to use one of those cards. In addition, there is internal bus speed limitations too, just like what the user at Flickr noticed. If manufacturer uses cheaper parts or slower bus, then newer and faster cards won't do anything":thumbsdown:

I agree but if you get a SDHC-UHS-II card it will prove that the card is not the limiting factor. Also there will probably be an update of the firmware that will allow its use if the rest of the bus technology doesnt stop this.
If the card does not work in the D750 then it will in the XT1. :-)

There you go with the 'glass half ful' position....just when I was having negative waves.
:lol:



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Posted by Iain: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 10:21 21st Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.

The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.

I'll swap a mint D610 for you D3s ;-)



Posted by Iain: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 10:26 22nd Post
This is what I'm using Eric
https://www.7dayshop.com/64gb-sd-cards/lexar-professional-64gb-class-10-uhs-ii-1000x-speed-150mb-s-sdxc-flash-memory-card



Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 11:47 23rd Post
Iain wrote:
This is what I'm using Eric
https://www.7dayshop.com/64gb-sd-cards/lexar-professional-64gb-class-10-uhs-ii-1000x-speed-150mb-s-sdxc-flash-memory-card

Yes that's what Ive ordered Iain...but its the revelation that the D750, one of Nikons newest body, currently cant take advantage of its UHS II speed and only works at UHS I rate, that makes me wonder if the camera itself has been 'knobbled' to prevent it out performing the more expensive models.

Maybe that's a bit farfetched....but its just a bit weird that a new camera isn't up with card developments?



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Posted by Eric: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 11:48 24th Post
Iain wrote:
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.

The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.

I'll swap a mint D610 for you D3s ;-)

Form an orderly queue please...the jury is still out here.

:lol:



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Posted by jk: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 12:30 25th Post
Iain wrote:
jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison

Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.

The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.

I'll swap a mint D610 for you D3s ;-)

If it had the same AF unit in the D610 as the D750/D800/D810 then I would say yes maybe! :lol:
I keep thinking that what I really want is a D3X but is it really? I want the 24MP and the D3S performance but it is only a little better than the D3! Maybe I should have got a D4.






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Posted by Iain: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 12:51 26th Post
You'll not get that with a D3x and you'll have limited iso range.

Eric, maybe they are keeping that for the D5 and D400. :lol:



Posted by jk: Mon Nov 23rd, 2015 12:56 27th Post
Yes it seems the D750 gives me the MP I want, but the D810 has a better control layout for me, but I then take the hit on too many MP.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 10:20 28th Post
Nobody produces a camera that is perfect for everybody, so we all end up having to make do with some things that we see as weak points but these might be strong points for others.



Posted by jk: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 11:29 29th Post
Iain wrote:
Nobody produces a camera that is perfect for everybody, so we all end up having to make do with some things that we see as weak points but these might be strong points for others.
That is very true.
I need to decide exactly what features I can drop and those that I cannot.



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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 11:51 30th Post
Eric, please can you check for me whether or not your D750 has the Playback zoom feature. It is present in D3, D3S, D3X, D810 and D800. It allows the OK button of the multiway selector switch when pressed to zoom (x100% usually) the magnification of the selected image. Thanks.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 12:27 31st Post
I would think it has as the D7200 has.



Posted by Eric: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 13:08 32nd Post
jk wrote:
Eric, please can you check for me whether or not your D750 has the Playback zoom feature. It is present in D3, D3S, D3X, D810 and D800. It allows the OK button of the multiway selector switch when pressed to zoom (x100% usually) the magnification of the selected image. Thanks.

Yes it does.



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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 13:45 33rd Post
Thanks very much.
Well that means a D750 has that function so it is not a differentiator.
If it had a 10 pin connector then it would be so easy.
It has two SD cards which is a bonus over the D810.

Is it possible to lock the shutter speed and/or aperture? I can do it on D3 so easily but less easily on the D800/D810 as I need to use a menu entry or fn button.


Traditionally or by past history I buy my new cameras in January so my itchy wallet is starting to move!



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Posted by Eric: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 16:35 34th Post
jk wrote:
Thanks very much.
Well that means a D750 has that function so it is not a differentiator.
If it had a 10 pin connector then it would be so easy.
It has two SD cards which is a bonus over the D810.

Is it possible to lock the shutter speed and/or aperture? I can do it on D3 so easily but less easily on the D800/D810 as I need to use a menu entry or fn button.


Traditionally or by past history I buy my new cameras in January so my itchy wallet is starting to move!

Don't think it's got the lock. So you can save your money. ;-)

But I rarely used it on th D3. Only when shooting in confined space when there was a risk I might knock the aperture setting.



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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 17:17 35th Post
I use it on my D3 and D3S to make sure that I keep the same settings as I shoot in full Manual mode.

Not an absolute must have but bloody useful!



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Posted by jk: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 17:19 36th Post
Iain wrote:
I would think it has as the D7200 has.
That is useful to know. Thanks Iain.



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Posted by Robert: Tue Nov 24th, 2015 18:53 37th Post
jk wrote:
Not an absolute must have but bloody useful!
Gaffer tape? :lol:



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Posted by jk: Wed Nov 25th, 2015 08:18 38th Post
Induces stickyness on my cameras!
:lol:



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