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Posted: Wed Aug 29th, 2018 14:12
 
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I dont think there is EVF zoom but TFT replay zoom as is currently present in D850 and other digital cameras.

Fuji cameras offer aa eVF zoom mode for focussing pnly. I dont know if this happens in the Z series cameras.



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jk wrote: I dont think there is EVF zoom but TFT replay zoom as is currently present in D850 and other digital cameras.

Fuji cameras offer aa eVF zoom mode for focussing pnly. I dont know if this happens in the Z series cameras.
I saw a graphic, can't remember where, that suggests that it is available on the Z series.

 




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Thanks for the fb, strange, because for me that would be the first thing I would expect from an EVF??? o.O

The fact it isn't mentioned almost anywhere (except very briefly in one of the numerous Z7 you tube videos I have endured in the name of research and those *** didn't know, they were speculating...) makes me wonder. It's such an obvious feature which I would use on almost every image. Just like I did with my Bronica S2a.

If you can't have a waist level finder with loupe, that would be next best thing.

I have tried using live view and by comparison it's rubbish, not only that, the image moves the right way... LOL



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Do you ever get the feeling we are wishing our lives away, waiting anxiously for the next development fix?

These manufacturers certainly know how to feed our habit.

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:lol:

If you think Nikon are bad for that, buy into Apple products!!! :lol:

... Oh but you have! o.O

I think we all have a bad dose of NAS.



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Robert wrote: :lol:

If you think Nikon are bad for that, buy into Apple products!!! :lol:

... Oh but you have! o.O

I think we all have a bad dose of NAS.
Speak for yourself, this Mac is 7 years old, my most recently acquired camera likewise as is my car. I am not an early adopter.

Whilst I may be interested in the Z series cameras I have absolutely no intention of buying one. Why not? Physically too small, the "grip" is, apparently only a battery pack so no second set of controls or shutter button and I'll only switch to an EVF when they are indistinguishable from an optical viewfinder.

Now if the Z series should depress the prices of used D4 and D5 bodies...

 




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GeoffR wrote:
Speak for yourself, this Mac is 7 years old I am not an early adopter

I bought my first Mac, an SE in ~1988, I still have it here in my bedroom, upgraded to SE30, total cost inc. the upgrade, £3,500 + £1,000 for scanner and £2,500 for the LaserPrinter, all early adopter.

Since then I have had innumerable Macs, new and used, large and small, including the 'luggable' Mac portable. I currently have two Mac minis, a Mac Book pro, an old iMac G5 which gives me access to OS 9.1; and my Pride and Joy, bought two years ago, an early 2009 Mac Pro 4.1 which I have hacked the firmware to 5.1 and is running High Sierra via PCIe SSDs.

I have several other Macs 'in the loft'! About eight years ago I had a clear out and completely filled my Volvo estate with unwanted Mac gear to take to the recycling depot.

Not to mention a succession of iPhones and an iPad for which I have yet to find a real use. Although I have had it on surveillance duty using an app called 'cambush' which turns it into a security camera, activated by movement in the field of view. We have some unwanted rodents in the back yard and I am trying to monitor their activities, so perhaps the iPad isn't entirely useless.

So that's my speak on AAS! o.O



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OK I know reviewers vary but.....
Nikon Z6 vs Sony a7 III, which is the better buy? Hint: it's too close to call

So they say the Z6 = A7iii. Too close to call.

Which is better: Nikon Z7 vs Sony a7R III

So the Z7 is the same as the Z6 just more MP? Yes?
And the A7iiiR is the same as the Z7 but has just less 3MP than the Z7? (so it is the same). Yes? Maybe not?

Then re-read the first article.....
So the Z6 is as good as the Sony A7iii.
So the Z7 is as good as the Sony A7iiiR? Maybe? Yes? See their conclusions. Or is the A7iiiR so much better than the A7iii? I cant judge as I cant do a hands on comparison.

So I ask myself "What are all the reviewers fussing about"?
Did they want a Z7 camera that beat every camera on the market out of sight?
Get real! Tools for jobs. Choose your tool correctly.



RANT Time. I really think that ~80% of the human race (or is it just reviewers?) is stupid and lack any facility for critical thinking. A plague upon their camp!



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Robert wrote: GeoffR wrote:
Speak for yourself, this Mac is 7 years old I am not an early adopter

I bought my first Mac, an SE in ~1988, I still have it here in my bedroom, upgraded to SE30, total cost inc. the upgrade, £3,500 + £1,000 for scanner and £2,500 for the LaserPrinter, all early adopter.

Since then I have had innumerable Macs, new and used, large and small, including the 'luggable' Mac portable. I currently have two Mac minis, a Mac Book pro, an old iMac G5 which gives me access to OS 9.1; and my Pride and Joy, bought two years ago, an early 2009 Mac Pro 4.1 which I have hacked the firmware to 5.1 and is running High Sierra via PCIe SSDs.

I have several other Macs 'in the loft'! About eight years ago I had a clear out and completely filled my Volvo estate with unwanted Mac gear to take to the recycling depot.

Not to mention a succession of iPhones and an iPad for which I have yet to find a real use. Although I have had it on surveillance duty using an app called 'cambush' which turns it into a security camera, activated by movement in the field of view. We have some unwanted rodents in the back yard and I am trying to monitor their activities, so perhaps the iPad isn't entirely useless.

So that's my speak on AAS! o.O
And I thought 5 MacBooks an iMac, an iPad Mini and a selection of iPhones not to mention the odd iPod was excessive! Nothing newer than 2014 in the Mac department though, only the iPad Mini is the current model.

 




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jk wrote: OK I know reviewers vary but.....
 
Did they want a Z7 camera that beat every camera on the market out of sight?
Essentially, yes I think that is exactly what they wanted, and I dare say Nikon could have done it but they need user feedback and they need to get the cameras in the right hands. What they have is attractive to Nikon users but needs refining.

I wouldn't want a camera without a set or controls and a shutter release for portrait shooting and I doubt I am alone. I suspect there are many software tweaks required to make the camera as adaptable as users would like but all these things can come later once a few thousand of them are in daily use.

Giving away an XQD card with the camera is a nice touch but I wouldn't be surprised if there were pressure to offer an SD card version too. We'll have to wait and see about that. Demand for two card slots will be there too but we already know that means a bigger body.

 

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